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PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 10:55 pm 
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I have started building HMS Charybdis in 1/72 scale. Any links, pictures or other information relating tothe Cherry B would be warmly welcomed. I am looking to recreate her from around the time of the Falklands campaign

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 1:32 am 
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Ticonderoga wrote:
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I have started building HMS Charybdis in 1/72 scale. Any links, pictures or other information relating tothe Cherry B would be warmly welcomed. I am looking to recreate her from around the time of the Falklands campaign

Andrew
g'day andrew.....i my self would like to do a type 12 and a lender in 1/48th...paul simpson and i were going to produce these hulls but.......looks like we won't be doing these for awhile......

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:44 am 
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This was my first attempt at making a model of HMS Leander. It was scratchbuilt in a scale of 1/192 using the Jecobin Plan. It is radio control model driving two screws. I did start making another one using the Jecobin 1/96 plan and I made the gun, funnels and a few other fittings, but ideally hoped to buy parts from Sirmar. However they don't seem to be around, so I may have to scratchbuild a lot more than I first thought or change scales.


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 9:04 pm 
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Hi,

I am looking into the possibility to build the MT miniature 1/700 Leander kits into one of the four Leander Class frigates (Minerva, Argonaut, Andromeda, Penelope) during the Falkland Wars, without major modifications.

Can the Cleopatra kit be built into the Minerva, Argonaut and Penelope? (I note the Cleopatra kit has a intended towed array stern)

Can the Charybdis kit be built into the Andromeda directly, as they were both the Seawolf group?

Thanks in advance for valuable advice.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 4:39 am 
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Kazec wrote:
Hi,

I am looking into the possibility to build the MT miniature 1/700 Leander kits into one of the four Leander Class frigates (Minerva, Argonaut, Andromeda, Penelope) during the Falkland Wars, without major modifications.

Can the Cleopatra kit be built into the Minerva, Argonaut and Penelope? (I note the Cleopatra kit has a intended towed array stern)

Can the Charybdis kit be built into the Andromeda directly, as they were both the Seawolf group?

Thanks in advance for valuable advice.


Charibdis should be OK for Andromeda as the Seawolf conversions were pretty much the same, you may want to use some of the detail parts from the NATO sprue in the Type 42/Type 45?Invincible kits to replace some of the white metal details with plastic parts. Also check the superstructure on the Sea Wolf ships abreast the main mast fwd of the funnel as this section was cut out as part of the conversion and i have a feeling MT missed it and retained the standard Leander superstructure.

Cleopatra as how whe was when originally converted so can be used as a standard Exocet Leander rather than the later Towed Array Exocet leanders where they cut down similar to the Seawolf ships to save weight. AFAIK, Cleopatra was converted to this configuration when refitted to repair the damage from the Falklands. Again you may want to use the NATO spure for some of the fixtures and fittings as the white metal doesn't always give the best look.

What you will need to do is check references for each specific ship from the period.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 9:53 am 
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Thanks Geoff for your detailed information! :thumbs_up_1:

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 2:00 pm 
Ref : Leander Class Frigates,

I served on 3 : Dido ( 74-5 ) Juno ( 78-80 ) and Arethusa ( 80 - 83 ). I also have a book called '' Leander Class Frigates by Richard Osborne and David Sowden which was published in 1990.

If you are interested there is also a Leander Class Frigate section on Facebook ( UK ).

Just one Q for you guys. I know that Leanders were sold to NZ and Pakistan. Is there any plastic models of the Leander Class Frigates down under ie Oz or NZ. I know there is Airfix 1/72 scale, also a very big Radio Controlled type, die-cast Leanders of all types : GP / Ikara / Exocet and Towed Array.

If there are models of Leanders bigger than 1/72 and smaller than the Radio Control version, can you let me know please.

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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2012 6:50 pm 
I think the manufacturers are missing the boat big time with the Leander Class Frigate. There are so many different variations, used by many different countries. A manufacturer could literally do a dozen or more releases from essentially the same hull, well two hulls perhaps. As built and Broad beamed.

Leander Class as built
Batch 1 with Ikara
Batch 2 with Exocet and SeaCat
Batch 3 with Exocet and Seawolf
Australian River Class version
Dutch Van Speijk Class
New Zealand, Indian, Chilean, Pakistani and Ecuadorian versions as well.

There are so many possibilities, expanding into Rothesay, Salisbury and Leopard Classes which share similar hulls and weapons. I just don't see how producing this class in say 1/350 plastic would not make a serious pile of sales for some intrepid manufacturer! Perhaps I'm just engaging in wishful thinking here, or perhaps there are some difficulties or limitations that I'm just not seeing. Leander's have a very long history as a successful design which sold well overseas, and are represented in many oceans of the world. Am I missing something here?

The only kit I'm aware of in plastic is the 1/600 Airfix kit, although MT miniatures is doing some in resin. I would say a 1/350 to 1/200 scale kit would sell outrageous numbers of kits worldwide, especially if the kits were engineered to depict 1 or more versions, with decals for different ships in the service of different nations, i.e., F-69 HMS Bacchante became HMNZS Wellington, SeaCat was replaced by Phalanx, etc.

Just thinking out loud....

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Atlantic models working on a 1/350 Leander and a Tribal. Sounds expensive, got to do it.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 5:04 am 
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Does someone have seen a Indonesian Leander (Ahmad Yani class, former Dutch Van Speijk class) with camouflage pattern?

I am asking, because many smaller Indonesian ships have a camouflage pattern, e.g. the former German Parchim class corvettes, see e.g.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 10:17 am 
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That camouflage pattern are only on the smaller indonesian patrol boats etc the larger warships are grey or a dark blue/grey depending on which era.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 10:35 am 
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Thank you! That is unfortunate, they would look cooler :D

But the conversion to a Indonesian ship, e.g. Oswald Siahaan with Yakhont launchers, would be interesting. Which helicopters they have? Bo-105? EC120?

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That would be a cool conversion!

Helos on the Ahmad Yani class are or were the NBO 105CB or a variant of the MBB Bo 105
navy - this case mexican navy
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 11:05 am 
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here you can see one on the flight deck on an Indonesian frigate.
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Thank you! Unfortunately there is no Bo-105 in 1/700, but there are Z-9 available by Orange Hobby, the Chinese variant of the Panther.

I have started to scratch built a Bo-105, but they are really small! :censored_2:

Here are photos of Indonesian navy Bo-105:

http://www.airport-data.com/aircraft/photo/000166035.html

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Another question:

the Chilean Leanders - Almirante Condell and Almirante Lynch - had in the late 1970s (at the time of Beagle Conflict/Conflicto del Beagle between Chile and Argentina) camouflage patterns.

See here:
http://base.mforos.com/1716049/4266549-la-escuadra-camuflada/?pag=3
http://base.mforos.com/1716042/3414429-las-fragatas-tipo-leander-pfg-06-condell-pfg-07-lynch-pfg-08-zenteno-y-pf-09-gral-baquedano/?pag=6

There were three different kind of camouflage patterns on the two ships, but I am not sure, which one had which. Does someone knows more about that?

In addition, did they employ Alouette III helicopters on this class in 1978? Later they got bigger hangars and used Cougar helicopters.

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I have acquired an old WEM 1/350 HMS Apollo and want to convert it to HMS Galatea, but I am having issues finding good colour pictures of her when she still had her gun on the front before the major refit. I have a couple of specific books on the subject of Leander's but again reference to the actual ship is very limited. Any guidance on this would be gratefully received.


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hi guys done a Rothsay in 72 scale took a bit of time but got there in the end


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Cool model of HMS Plymouth! :thumbs_up_1:

There are now two 1/700 3D printed models of the Leander class:

Chilean Almirante Condell
https://www.shapeways.com/product/5JSTGVG97/chilean-frigate-pfg-06-almirante-condell-1-700?optionId=64808553

Indian Taragiri
https://www.shapeways.com/product/EG7XJENEQ/indian-ins-taragiri-frigate-1-700?optionId=63582723)
http://www.modellmarine.de/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=4998:masters-of-military-indische-fregatte-ins-taragiri-1700&catid=544:masters-of-military,

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