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PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2016 9:31 pm 
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Sure. I'll re-post the unknown Mutsuki here to keep as part of the visual record, along with some others, including another Satsuki.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 11, 2016 4:42 am 
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These pics are great! Thanks for posting them! And yes, pics of Satsuki are indeed rare...up until these posted here, I've only managed to find one pic of her (the one on Wikipedia).

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PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2016 12:10 am 
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Just a quick question regarding the Mutsuki and the Yūnagi (Kamikaze-class).

I know Tetra makes a Mutsuki PE Set for the Pit-Road Mutsuki, which has many parts that LOOK LIKE they might work with a Kamikaze-class ships (specifically a Yūnagi).

I have a kit of the Yūnagi, but it lacks one piece that would allow it to be fitted out as the 1942 fit of the Yūnagi: The Aft 4.7" gun platform.

The Mutsuki kit looks to have a PE part for this position that could be placed over a scratch-built, or modified styrene part.

But would the guard-rails of the ship fit (such as on the forecastle), or on the stern?

And I know that a great many other things would have to be altered, such as the TT reload Rails, which seem to have been moved from the Port to Starboard sides (If I read the thread, and interpret the drawings correctly).

But.... How much of that set would work on a Kamikaze-class?

Or is there a PE set for a Kamikaze class?

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PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2016 2:55 pm 
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LOL, I've just gone through the same exercise with the RB set. The Tetra set probably makes more sense; it's certainly more cost effective. Outside of a small, generic Pit-Road PE set, there is no dedicated Kamikaze class photo etch set.

I think most of the Tetra set could be used, particularly the railings, ladders, and the platform you require. Compare:


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PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2016 3:05 pm 
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Some Mutsuki class DD photos have been released in Hi-Rez by the NHC site. Those files are too large for this site but, I have resized them for posting here. Enjoy.


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PostPosted: Fri May 06, 2016 3:44 am 
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What is up with the forward funnel of the Satsuki in those photos?

It looks like it has stripes painted on it, but the white is all..... sloppy, or fuzzy.

You can see a clear stripe painted on the aft funnel.

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PostPosted: Fri May 06, 2016 1:18 pm 
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I think it is some sort of optical illusion or light reflection. The #2 funnel stripe is not visible in the previous photo, taken just a few moments earlier, but that oddity is. My thought is that if it were paint on #1 funnel, than that paint should be obscured as well. If it were smoke, it should have moved aft by the second photo. My two cents.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 05, 2016 9:17 am 
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Hi,

new to the board.

I'm thinking about doing a 1942 Yunagi. Is the Skywave Kamikaze model still the best starting point for this? I saw some earlier criticisms of the 12cm gunshield being overscale in this kit but I see that five star models make a set of resin gun shields with turned brass barrels. Has anyone tried those and are they noticeably better?

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 05, 2016 6:55 pm 
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I stand by my comments about the PR shields being overscale. I believe I saw a recent build using the FIve Star versions, and I thought it looked really good. Of course, I can't find the link right now.

Yes to the Kamikaze kit for Yunagi.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2016 8:24 am 
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Did a little searching myself and found this thread using the five star barrels and shields on a Mutsuki. Nice build:

http://www.shipmodels.info/mws_forum/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=162095&start=20


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2016 9:40 am 
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Dan K wrote:
The issues with it being a temporary mount is: a) the new one is already in its proper position, b) the photo was taken long after the refit/upgrade had taken place.

I really don't know what it is or why it's there.

Oops, just found the following but, not sure if this is a Minekaze or Kamikaze class. Out the window with former opinion. Credit unknown. I think I grabbed it offf Ebay at some point


Back to analyzing this. I don't really have good sources for what went into destroyers. I wish someone would write an equivalent of the Lacroix and Wells book for IJN destoyers. But I spent a little bit of time looking at rangefinders in their book on cruisers, and it looks like some of the cruisers got 1.5m navigational rangefinders installed in their modernization cycles. I'm wondering if that is what this is? Most of them seem to be in towers, but some of them are bare. There is one aft on an unprotected tripod in the Mogami, and a pair of them on either side of the bridge in Tama.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 6:13 pm 
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Could very well be. In fact, it does make sense.

Agreed about the need for a DD volume.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 10:19 am 
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Anyone know if this kit (1/700 Hayate SPW) actually contains special parts? I couldn't see any in the Hobby Search photos like you can see for some of the other SPW kits. Wondered if anyone had bought it and knew for sure?

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 9:17 pm 
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This post was supposed to go into the: calling all ship fans/ destroyers and frigates / Calling All IJN Minekaze, Kamikaze, Mutsuki class fans thread.


Last edited by Timmy C on Sat Oct 08, 2016 1:05 am, edited 1 time in total.
Done.


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2016 2:42 pm 
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Can't help on this one.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2018 12:15 pm 
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Hi mates,
I just started building a 1/700 Yunagi as of August 1942. After re-reading this thread I realized the issues I´m facing might be of interest to some of you so I decided to start a Work in Progress thread for the first time. Hope you will find it helpful and I get some critical feedback on my thoughts from you, as many things are quite obscure about these ships. Thanks!

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 6:51 am 
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In a recent Model Art publication, Yamashita Hobby has announced a planned release in 2018 for a new 1/700 Mutsuki class kit.

This is very welcome news. Also interesting, because I would think that Hasegawa would be looking to release new kits of these as well in the wake of their new Yugumo and Asashio class kits. I wonder if that would actually happen now.


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