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Willie

Post subject: Re: main guns

Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 2:44 pm

Joined: Sat Apr 29, 2006 7:36 am
Posts: 658
Location: Vigo, Spain

jameyt wrote:

Willy, could you put some pics of the guns with somthing to give an idea for measuring or idea for proportion ect. thanks. jameyt

Hi Jamey,

It took longer than expected, but here you are.
I could not find at home an inch ruler, so please notice that the reference ruler I am using in the pics is in CENTIMETERS and MILIMETERS.
The three main guns are seen in the three views, and I have included a piece of Tamiya masking tape for further reference in size.
The main battery, with gun shield:

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I hope they are of some help.
Best regards from Spain,

Willie.

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jameyt

Post subject: info

Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 11:52 am

willie thanks for this info.this will be a tremdous help and as i have seen from your work the revell model does have potiential again thanks alot
jameyt

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Willie

Post subject:

Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 4:24 pm

Joined: Sat Apr 29, 2006 7:36 am
Posts: 658
Location: Vigo, Spain

One more pic of the bridge, already complete and ready to be closed and painted.

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Best regards,
Willie.

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jep1210

Post subject: Outstanding

Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 5:40 pm

Joined: Sat Apr 22, 2006 5:49 pm
Posts: 51
Location: NJ

Keep them comming Willie. The Ship is looking great.

J.P.

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Willie

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Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 5:23 pm

Joined: Sat Apr 29, 2006 7:36 am
Posts: 658
Location: Vigo, Spain

A pic on the trick to build scales. I have been looking for these scales in PE for a long time, as I thought they would not be easy at all to make, but eventually I thought that I could try to do them myself. The first attempt was not too good, but the second seems to be OK.

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Best regards from Spain,

Willie.

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Willie

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Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 12:11 pm

Joined: Sat Apr 29, 2006 7:36 am
Posts: 658
Location: Vigo, Spain

The scales to the bridge and the fantail are basically the same thing and were again made with stretched sprue.
The steps themselves ( in dark grey ) were made with the railings that come with every Heller model, that have a very typical triangular shape, and that I always keep as a treasure, because they are but very useful elsewhere.
I have always thought that if it can be done with PE it can be done with plastic as well.

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Best regards from Spain,

Willie.

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les

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Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 11:45 am

Joined: Mon Jan 10, 2005 3:01 pm
Posts: 819
Location: Port Townsend, WA

For those of you who don't know, this is called modeling. :thumbs_up_1:

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Willie

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Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 6:23 pm

Joined: Sat Apr 29, 2006 7:36 am
Posts: 658
Location: Vigo, Spain

Thank you all for your good remarks, but honestly, most of the credit must go to AOTS. It is very easy to do it if you know what to do and where to place it.
I have been busy correcting exams, so I have not been able to build much more. Here you are the depth charge throwers. The tubes are apparently a bit too thick, so maybe I will have to repeat them.

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Best regards from Spain,

Willie.

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Willie

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Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 5:04 pm

Joined: Sat Apr 29, 2006 7:36 am
Posts: 658
Location: Vigo, Spain

At last I decided to repeat the whole set of depth charges proyectors, as the firing tubes seemed to be too thick, and now they look a bit more convincing. Here they are again :

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The fantail is getting ready, but it is not complete yet :

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And a little trick to make the ammo boxes lids, with Evergreen strip and stretched sprue :

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Once dry, you have only to cut the surplus thread. A very easy and cheap trick that adds to realism.
Best regards,

Willie.

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Willie

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Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 8:35 am

Joined: Sat Apr 29, 2006 7:36 am
Posts: 658
Location: Vigo, Spain

I was somehow afraid of the depth charge racks, but at last here they are.
I think they are slightly out of scale, but as I was was following exactly the instructions of AOTS, we have to deduce that the accuracy of the Revell structures is not exact either.
Anyhow, the overall view of the ship with the racks is not bad -- I mean, the inaccuracy is not too apparent.

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I hope you like them.
Very best regards from Spain,

Willie.

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Devin

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Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 11:27 am

Joined: Mon Jan 10, 2005 10:46 am
Posts: 2411
Location: Hoboken, NJ

Love seeing what you do with stretched sprue. Amazing work.

-Devin

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Willie

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Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 6:16 pm

Joined: Sat Apr 29, 2006 7:36 am
Posts: 658
Location: Vigo, Spain

I could not do much in the last days, as I was fully occupied with the corrections of my students´ exams, but at last I could do something else -- capstan and anchor crane, and one of the most interesting pieces onboard this ship : the practice loading machine, a device whose use and usefulness is not clear for me, but that was onboard the ship.

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I hope you like them.
Best regards,

Willie.

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Amen dico tibi, hodie mecum eris in paradiso (Lk 23,43).

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Tracy White

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Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 7:45 pm

Joined: Mon Jan 10, 2005 11:02 am
Posts: 10454
Location: EG48

Your work is really nothing short of inspirational.

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ArizonaBB39

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Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 8:56 pm

Joined: Sat Jan 08, 2005 7:29 pm
Posts: 1284
Location: Tempe, Arizona

Willie wrote:

>SNIP< and one of the most interesting pieces onboard this ship : the practice loading machine, a device whose use and usefulness is not clear for me, but that was onboard the ship.

That was used to help the crew train for loading the actual 5 inch and 3 inch guns on the ship, hence the name Practice Loader. Not having to use the real gun it made it easier for crews to not have to worry about accidents (not accidentaly shooting the gun during practice, or not making mistakes when actually needing to use the gun in combat.)

Hopefully that helps a little :thumbs_up_1:

By the way, you're work is AWESOME!! keep us posted for sure!

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Willie

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Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 12:29 pm

Joined: Sat Apr 29, 2006 7:36 am
Posts: 658
Location: Vigo, Spain

Thank you all for your kind remarks on my humble work.
I presumed it had to do with artillery -- appart from the very shape of the thing, loading has a very restricted lexical field onboard a warship :cool_2:

-- but I was not sure, though I can remember now that the Bismarck had such a device ahead of turret Caesar as well.
thanks for your kind explanation, and best regards,

Willie.

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Tracy White

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Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 2:37 pm

Joined: Mon Jan 10, 2005 11:02 am
Posts: 10454
Location: EG48

THe practice loader also helped prevent wear on the actual weapons. I've read stories of competitions where different gun crews would see which one could "fire" 100 rounds the fastest through the practice loader.

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Willie

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Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 9:19 am

Joined: Sat Apr 29, 2006 7:36 am
Posts: 658
Location: Vigo, Spain

I was lucky enough to find a couple of reasonably clear pics of the .50 machine gun onboard a flushdecker, so the construction was not too difficult nor long.

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And this is what I was able to produce:

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I hope you like them.
Best regards,

Willie.

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Amen dico tibi, hodie mecum eris in paradiso (Lk 23,43).

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Tracy White

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Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 12:06 pm

Joined: Mon Jan 10, 2005 11:02 am
Posts: 10454
Location: EG48

Very well done! I notice that the lines you have hanging down front are nearly a symmetrical curve; If this was to simplify construction all the better, but these were hoses for the water cooling and my only comment is that *if* you do more you might want to make them look a little more limp.

However, still very inspirational... makes me wish I hadn't already finished mine!

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Willie

Post subject:

Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 1:05 pm

Joined: Sat Apr 29, 2006 7:36 am
Posts: 658
Location: Vigo, Spain

Tracy White wrote:

I notice that the lines you have hanging down front are nearly a symmetrical curve; If this was to simplify construction all the better, but these were hoses for the water cooling and my only comment is that *if* you do more you might want to make them look a little more limp.

Tracy,

You are but very right.
I actually realized that these were the hoses for the water cooling, but I had to achieve a compromise between the lenght of the hoses, the rough shape of them when hanging and the tension that they suffer when they are first attached to the rod (or just the opposite) while the glue is not dried yet, as they have to be glued in two phases.
I have not put any kind of optics either (though they can be clearly seen in the pic as well), as I was not able to produce a round piece of plastic thin enough to suit this scale.
Very best regards from accross the Atlantic,

Willie.

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Last edited by Willie on Mon Oct 21, 2019 9:22 am, edited 1 time in total.

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Post subject:

Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 1:08 pm

Dear Willie,
What is that very large object at the aft end of the aft deckhouse?

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