Hi Guys,
The Ms22 paint scheme was what I ASSUMED to be the correct paint scheme.........as the previous photos I've posted of Renshaw, (I posted on pp4..this thread), would indicate. The main indicator was the darker band around the hull from the boot topping up to the lowest sheer line. This darker band would of course be 5-N Navy Blue, and everything above it, (vertical surfaces)...5-H Haze Grey. But wait.....That would mean that her vertical upperworks would be 5-H too...right?????
See pic....
So, what color is the vertical surface that President Truman is standing behind? This would be 5-H if Ms22.......I thought. Plus, just look at Missouri's upperworks......now that's 5-H. They are different!
This is about the time I made, "first contact", with Randy Short. I called him by phone..missed him, but left a msg. He called me back and left a msg...that went on for a few msg's. Finally we got to talk, and I asked him why the Snyder & Short Ship database showed Renshaw with Ms21 the last half of 45??? Getting confused yet? I was! So, I e-mailed these two pics of Renshaw and Missouri, (to be my dio-display), and his reply was...Ms12/45...NEUTRAL COLORS. I said what is Ms12/45? Never heard of that! Neutral colors??? What's that? In a long converstaion a couple nights ago, Randy talked me through the paint mixes for Ms12/45. He also explained to me the, "Late War", changeover to Neutral colors from blue hues. He knows a
of a lot more than I do. Plus Renshaw's 14-40 mod was done in mid 45 and she never saw "late war", action. Mare Island was using neutrals by this time in 45, and I know no different. I believe my facts are straight.
Here is another picture of Renshaw taken the same day, (October 27/45), but doesn't show much. .....
This and a few other pics is all that I have to work with to, "get the paint scheme right".
Both DD499 pics on this thread were taken from Navsource.org DD499 Renshaw's page.
If you look at the DD499 pic on page 4, (this thread), you can see the lowest point of sheer was not that closely observed, as I'm pretty sure it would be a little higher.....just another detail to adhere to when painting the hull. That's the fun part! Also, the gun mounts look lighter than the surrounding unshadowed, (by the sun), areas....another...hmmmmm. Maybe still 5-H Haze Grey???
So, here is a visual description of Ms12/45, (albeit an aircraft carrier), showing the vertical surfaces on the upperworks would then be...Ocean Grey 5-0 #17 (Neutral). According to Randy, my best bet will be, (using Testors Acryl), to take and use FS36270 Neutral Grey straight out of the bottle for the Ocean Grey 5-O neutral. This color matched perfectly in a previous, "test". Good enough for me.
The hull darker band will be Navy Grey 5-N #7 (neutral). This will be a mix of 1 part FS36270, 1 part black and 1 part white.
Picture taken from Snyder and Short Ship Camouflage website.
The tub for the fantail twin 20's is also being taken from the Trumpeter kit and is the correct shape..almost. I have to re-shape the aft end of the tub, (square off the corners), to duplicate the o-head pic of Renshaw; it seems there were a couple more ammo boxes.
Also, the twin 20 teardrop tub for between Mt53 and 54 is incorrect in shape..just as Rick said, but I will try to use the middle of it and "shorten", the ends. Additionally, the house beneath will be slightly, "widened".
Part of the fun....
Tony