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PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 10:36 am 
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WIth the release of new toolings of this class in 1/700 from PitRoad and Fujimi, plus the perpetually unsatisfying, original tooling from Tamiya, a class thread seems appropriate.

The write-up in Wikipedia is reasonably complete and accurate: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shiratsuyu_class_destroyer

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Class overview

Operators: Imperial Japanese Navy
Preceded by: Hatsuharu-class
Succeeded by: Asashio-class
Built: 1931–1935
In commission: 1933–1945
Completed: 10
Lost: 10

General characteristics
Type: Destroyer
Displacement: 1,685 long tons (1,712 t) standard
Length: 103.5 m (340 ft) pp
107.5 m (352 ft 8 in) waterline
Beam: 9.9 m (32 ft 6 in)
Draught: 3.5 m (11 ft 6 in)
Propulsion: 2 shaft Kampon geared turbines
3 boilers, 42,000 hp (31,000 kW)
Speed: 34 knots (39 mph; 63 km/h) (original),
33.3 knots (modified)
Range: 4,000 nmi (7,400 km) @ 14 kn (26 km/h)
Complement: 180
Armament: • 5 × Type 3 127 mm 50 caliber naval guns (2×2, 1×1)
• 2 ×Type 93 13mm machine guns (2×1)
• 8 × 610 mm (24 in) torpedo tubes (2×4)
• 16 × Type 91 torpedoes
• 16 × depth charges

The Shiratsuyu class destroyers (白露型駆逐艦, Shiratsuyugata kuchikukan?) was a class of ten destroyers of the Imperial Japanese Navy in service before and during World War II.[1]

Contents
1 Background
2 Design
2.1 Propulsion
2.2 Armament
2.3 Radar
3 Operational history
4 List of ships
5 References
5.1 Books
5.2 External links
6 Notes

Background

The initial six Shiratsuyu class destroyers were modified versions of the Hatsuharu-class, and had been originally planned as the final six vessels of that class under the ”Circle-One” Naval Expansion Plan.

However, design issues with the Hatsuharu class ships, notably their “top-heavy” design relative to their small displacement, resulted in extensive modifications, to the point where the final six vessels on order were named as a separate class. An additional four vessels were ordered under the ”Circle-Two Naval Expansion Plan of fiscal 1934, and all vessels were completed by 1937.

As with the Hatsuharu-class, the Shiratsuyu-class destroyers were designed to accompany the Japanese main striking force and to conduct both day and night torpedo attacks against the United States Navy as it advanced across the Pacific Ocean, according to Japanese naval strategic projections.[2] Despite being one of the most powerful classes of destroyers in the world at the time of their completion, none survived the Pacific War.[3]

Design

In general layout, the Shiratsuyu-class vessels closely resembled the Ariake-sub-class, or final version of the Hatsuharu-class, differing only in the more compact bridge design and the shape and inclination of the funnels. The hull retained the general configuration of the Hatsuharu class with a long forecastle with a pronounced flare to improve sea-keeping at high speeds by adding buoyancy and reducing the spray and water coming over the deck.

The Shiratsuyu-class were the first Japanese warships to be completed with quadruple torpedo mounts and telephone communications to the torpedo station. As with the Hatsuharu-class. the torpedo launchers were given a protective shield to allow for use in heavy weather and to protect against splinter damage.

Propulsion

The Shiratsuyu-class, as with the previous Hatsuharu-class, carried two sets of Kampon geared turbines, one for each shaft. Each set consisted one low-pressure and one high-pressure turbine, plus a cruise turbine connected to the high-pressure turbine. The LP and HP turbines were connected to the propeller shaft by a two-pinion reduction gear. Each propeller had a diameter of 3.05 m (10.0 ft) and a pitch of 3.7 m (12 ft). The total horsepower of the Shiratsuyu-class was only 42,000 hp (31,000 kW) compared to the 42,000 hp (31,000 kW) of their Fubuki-class predecessors, but the machinery was significantly lighter and more powerful on a unit basis. The Shiratsuyu's machinery weighed only 106 tonnes (104 long tons; 117 short tons) compared to the 144 tonnes (142 long tons; 159 short tons) of the Fubuki-class, or 396 shaft horsepower per tonne versus 347 shaft horsepower per tonne for the older ships.[4]

Similarly the three Kampon Type Ro-Gō boilers used in the Shiratsuyu-class ships weighed 50 tonnes (49 long tons; 55 short tons) in comparison to the 51 tonnes (50 long tons; 56 short tons) boilers used in the Fubuki-class, but produced 14,000 hp (10,000 kW) each while the older boilers produced 12,500 hp (9,300 kW). This gave a ratio of 3.6 kg per shaft horsepower for the Shiratsuyu-class compared to the 4.1 kg per shaft horsepower of their predecessors. The newer design of boilers initially used steam pressurized to 20-bar (290 psi), just like the older models, but used superheating to improve efficiency while the older boilers simply used saturated steam.[5]

A single 100 kW turbo-generator was fitted behind the reduction gears in a separate compartment and two 40 kW diesel generators were located between the propeller shafts. As initially completed the Shiratsuyu-class had a range of 4,000 nautical miles (7,400 km) at a speed of 18 knots (33 km/h) with 460 tonnes (450 long tons; 510 short tons) of fuel.[6]

Armament

The Shiratsuyu-class destroyers used the same 50 caliber 12.7 cm/50 Type 3 naval gun as the Fubuki-class, but all turrets could elevate to 75° to give the main guns a minimal ability to engage aircraft. During the war the single turret was removed on all surviving ships and replaced with from 13 to 21 (depending on the individual vessel) 25 mm (0.98 in) Type 96 anti-aircraft guns in double and triple mounts. Although these powered mounts were unsatisfactory because their traverse and elevation speeds were too slow to engage high-speed aircraft[7] more single mounts were fitted to ships in the last year of the war.

For example. Hatsushimo mounted ten single 25 guns when she was sunk in July 1945. Four license-built Hotchkiss 13.2 mm (0.52 in) Type 93 machine guns were also fitted to Hatsushimo, but these were also of limited utility against modern aircraft.[8]

The 61 cm Type 90 torpedo was mounted in quadruple tube Type 92 launchers, derived from the twin tube Type 89 launcher used in the Takao-class heavy cruisers. Shields were fitted to both the torpedo mounts and lockers to protect them from the weather and from strafing aircraft. Initially the shields were made from Duralumin to save weight, but these quickly corroded and had to be replaced. "NiCrMo" steel, taken from the air chambers of obsolete torpedoes, 3 mm (0.12 in) in thickness, was chosen for the new shields to save weight. It was traversed by an electro-hydraulic system and could traverse 360° in twenty-five seconds. If the backup manual system was used the time required increased to two minutes. Each tube could be reloaded in twenty-three seconds using the endless wire and winch provided.[9]

Only eighteen depth charges were initially carried in a rack at the stern, but this increased to thirty-six after the autumn of 1942. Apparently no sonar or hydrophones were fitted until after the outbreak of the war when the Type 93 sonar and Type 93 hydrophones were mounted.[10]

Radar

Radar was not installed on the surviving ships of this class until late in the war, possibly as late as 1944. They were given a Type 22 radar on the foremast, a Type 13 on the mainmast and a Type E-27 radar countermeasures device was carried high on the foremast.[10]

Operational history

None of the Shiratsuyu-class ships survived the Pacific War. The lead ship of the class, Shiratsuyu was sunk northeast of Mindanao in a collision with the oiler Seiyo Maru and the rest of the class were all sunk in action.

Murasame was employed in several campaigns, beginning with the invasion of the Philippines. In 1942 she participated in the Battle of the Java Sea and the Battle of Midway. During the Guadalcanal Campaign Murasame played a supporting role in the Battle of the Eastern Solomons and the Battle of the Santa Cruz Islands and was sunk at the Battle of Kolombangara.

Shigure was squadron flagship of Captain Tameichi Hara through much of 1942-43, and became one of the most famous Japanese destroyers of the war. She survived numerous battles in the Solomons (including being the sole survivor of the Battle off of Kolombangara -[11]

List of shipsShips of the Shiratsuyu-class[12]


Ship Shipyard Laid down Launched Completed Fate
白露 Shiratsuyu Sasebo Naval Arsenal 14 November 1933 5 April 1935 20 August 1936 Collision 15 June 1944
時雨 Shigure Uraga Dock Company 9 December 1933 18 May 1935 7 September 1936 Sunk in action 24 January 1945
村雨 Murasame Fujinagata Shipyards 1 February 1934 20 June 1935 7 January 1937 Sunk in action, 6 March 1943
夕立 Yudachi Sasebo Naval Arsenal 16 October 1934 21 June 1936 7 January 1937 Sunk in action 13 November 1942
五月雨 Samidare Uraga Dock Company 19 December 1934 6 July 1935 29 January 1937 Sunk in action 26 August 1944
春雨 Harusame Uraga Dock Company 3 February 1935 21 September 1935 26 August 1937 Sunk in action 8 June 1944
山風 Yamakaze Uraga Dock Company 25 May 1935 21 February 1936 30 June 1937 Sunk in action 23 June 1942
江風 Kawakaze Fujinagata Shipyards 25 April 1935 1 November 1936 30 April 1937 Sunk in action 6 August 1943
海風 Umikaze Maizuru Naval Arsenal 4 May 1935 27 November 1936 31 May 1937 Sunk in action 1 February 1944
涼風 Suzukaze Uraga Dock Company 9 July 1935 11 March 1937 31 August 1937 Sunk in action 25 January 1944


DK Note:

Design-wise, the last 4 ships of the class sported a revised, streamlined version of the bridge that was the prototype of the following Asashio and Kagero class DDs. Size and layout were the same as the original six ships; the streamlining consisted of changing from the slab sided construction of the previous Hatsuharu type to a curved form reminiscent of the earlier Fubuki types, though in a more compact structure.

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Available kits:

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1972 (Waterline Consortium 1st generation) – Tamiya Issued

Shiratsuyu, 1940 -Item # 31402, kit # WL402, originally issued 1972, re-issued 1994
Harusame, 1944 -Item # 31403, kit # WL403, originally issued 1972, re-issued 1994



2011 Second Generation – Fujimi Issued

Shiratsuyu and Harusame, 1942 - Item # 401102, SKU # SWM (EX) - 55, issued October, 2011
Suzukaze and Umikaze, 1942 - Item # 401102, SKU # SWM (EX) - 55, issued October, 2011
Yamakaze and Kawakaze, 1942 - Item # 430393, SKU # SWM-(EX)- SP15, with photo-etch parts, released August, 2012
Marusame and Yudachi, 1942 - Item # 401126, SKU # SWM (EX) - 59, issued April, 2013
Shigure and Samidare, 1944 - Item # 401133, SKU # SWM (EX) - 81, issued June, 2013
Shigure/Yukikaze (Kagero class)1944-5 - Item # 430744, SKU # SWM (EX) – SP-39, issued July, 2014

Boxed set, full class of 10 ships - Item # 431369, SKU # SWM (EX) – SP47, issued November, 2015

Shiratsuyu and Harusame, 1942 - Item # 431895, SKU # SWM (EX) – SP-86, with desk masks, issued November, 2017
Shigure/Yukikaze (Kagero class)1944-5 - Item # 431819, SKU # SWM (EX) – 98, issued September, 2017



2011 Second Generation –Pit-Road (Skywave) issued (all come with lower hull option)

Shiratsuyu, 1942 - Item # PITW-135, issued August, 2011
- Item # PITW-135E, with photo-etched parts, issued April, 2012
Umikaze, 1944 - Item # PITW-138, issued January, 2012
Harusame, , 1941 -Item # SPW-32, with new equipment set NE-05, released November, 2014
Yudachi, 1942 -Item # SPW-40, with new equipment set NE-05, released August, 2015
Shigure, 1944 -Item # SPW-45, with new equipment set NE-05, released November, 2015
Samidare, 1944 -Item # SPW-46, with new equipment set NE-05, released June, 2016



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There are a handful of Shiratsuyu class builds in the gallery:

A build of Shigure from the Tamiya kit by Ed Durkin: http://www.modelshipgallery.com/gallery ... index.html

A nice build of Harusame from the Tamiya kit by Alan Chung: http://www.modelshipgallery.com/gallery ... index.html


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Yudachi, an example of the "square" bridge type, a closeup of the "square type bridge of Shiratsuyu, and a nice, colorized, round bridge type example, Umikaze.


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From an old Model Art volume for anyone looking to correct the Tamiya version bow


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So whats the verdict, Fujimi's or Pit-Road version is more accurate ?


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And by the way, thank you Dan for the Model Art picture, that will come handy ! :thumbs_up_1:


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Haven't received my Fujimi kits so, I can't say.

Some detail shots:

Top of Yudachi bridge ( I think this is early 1942 but I would have to check), then mid aft sections - note the placement of the large air intakes atop the forward portion of the aft deck house, and a nice closeup of the 40mm single mount position to either side of #2 funnel that was mounted on the class prewar. Replaced early on by twin 25mm mounts.


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Dan, when the IJN Shiratsuyu later in war had a double 25 mm on a platform in front of the bridge, she still had the single 12,7 cm in the stern ?
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By the way, waiting for the Fujimi versus Pit-Road IJN Shiratsuyu when you recieved your Fujimi model.


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Dan K wrote:
Haven't received my Fujimi kits so, I can't say.

Some detail shots:

Top of Yudachi bridge ( I think this is early 1942 but I would have to check),





According to my volume of "Warships of The Imperial Japanese Navy" Volume 17 ( at least I suppose this is the set's title... everything else is in Japanese so I'm winging it here.) That top view of Yudachi's bridge is dated 1937 (12th year of Showa period I think. ??? 12/8/22 to be precise) However, if this labeling is true, what is with the splinter matting used at such an early date? Did the IJN predate WWII with this type of personel protection?



I will drive myself insane trying to document all the idiosyncracies in this class just during 42 and mid 43 alone! I do have a decent collection of plans from Haruo Takami at Miyukikai but unfortunatly they are drawn mostly from the late 30's. I realize photographic evidence is the stuff for super sleuths but throw me a bone here. Is there a rule of thumb that can distinguish three or four of the class from another three or four of the same? I guess what I'm asking, is there a visual reference that can be easily picked out and recreated..... such as the aft bandstand gun tubs on early fletchers as opposed to the small boxy tubs of late war fletchers?

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So whats the verdict, Fujimi's or Pit-Road version is more accurate ?



Bahh, just pick up a few of them both. You'll cover both curiosities with one stroke. Besides, that will help alleviate the potential of becoming bored with building too many of the same model. Think about it, a couple of Tamiya, a couple of Fujimi's and perhaps two pitroads. They all are of the same thing but I'll bet my left kidney (and the right one too) they each have thier own challenges that will not work for the other two.

That is how I stay sane what with all the 1/700 DDs I have stashed away.

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According to my volume of "Warships of The Imperial Japanese Navy" Volume 17 ( at least I suppose this is the set's title... everything else is in Japanese so I'm winging it here.) That top view of Yudachi's bridge is dated 1937 (12th year of Showa period I think. ??? 12/8/22 to be precise) However, if this labeling is true, what is with the splinter matting used at such an early date? Did the IJN predate WWII with this type of personel protection?


It probably is 1937 as this photo appear in several publications with that date. In the earlier volumes, it's also listed as Marusame, but I do think it is Yudachi.

The photo was taken in Chinese waters during that conflict, hence the extra sandbagging for splinter shields.

As to Atma's question - I cannot pinpoint dates yet as to when the 40mm were echanged over to 25mm, only that it was after the start of the war. Some sources indicate that twin 13mm may have been mounted intitially. The removal of the aft single 12.7cm mount and changeover to additional AA took place in 1943 for most units. As to when, it depends. The photo below is of Samidare, Sept or October 1943, and she still carries her single mount under the tarp in the rear. Note the 25mm mount and bandstand under the tarp in front of the bridge, original tripod mast means no radar as of yet.


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So we can still have a IJN Shiratsuyu class with a single mount aft and a 25mm infront of the bridge... Excellent.
The 25 mm infront of the bridge was double or triple, also the 25 mm that replaced the 40mm/13 mm was double or triple ?
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The 25mm mount up front was a twin. Those to either side of funnel #2 were initially twins. When refit with radar, new foremast, single 12.7cm mount removed, extra AA added, those on either side of the funnel were changed to triples.


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Damn ! I used triple on the funnel ... Now I need to replace them without damaging the ship with double... What was I thinking without asking you...


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Patience, grasshopper.

The TROMS are generally the best guide to timing on changes. The TROM doesn't always have the correct specifics of a given refit but, just the date of the yard visits can give you a clue as to when something may have happened. Slowly but surely, the TROMS will be updated with better info.


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Pics of the Fujimi sprues: http://mokehana.blog34.fc2.com/blog-entry-286.html

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PitRoad is about to release its round bridge versions, with Umikaze as the kit name: http://www.hlj.com/product/pitw-138


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Thanks Dan K for a fine review and for the splendid information and Pics! I was wondering if it would be possible to make a IJN Shigure out of the Fujimi or i suppose for that matter the new Pitroad kit as she would go well with my IJN fuso and Yamashiro. Also i was wondering if the AA replacement for the x turret came with the fujimi kit? It looked like there was on the first pic on 1999.co.jp's web site here > http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/image/10158322b/30/1
but in new pic's of the kit i haven’t see the rear AA platform. any help would be greatly appreciated as always :big_grin:


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You're most welcome. :-) (DK note -9-2013: A comparison review thread between the Fujimi and PitRoad kits can be found here: viewtopic.php?f=53&t=84611 )


Despite what the CAD illustration promises, the current Fujimi kit is strictly an early to midwar fit kit, squarebridge type. The CAD illlustration is specifically for Shigure's fit, so I imagine that Fujimi is planning a late war release version at some point. (Note: Shigure was the only 1st class IJN DD to ever wear a Type 13 radar on her foremast, excepting some of the last built Akizuki types. This particular configuration is only known from the Shizuo Fukui sketch of her in late 1944.)

OTOH, the PitRoad kit can be built into a late war version, though it is a less accurate kit.


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Thanks for the fast response Dan k ! :big_grin: So I can assume that the pic with the type 13 on pitroads Umikaze is then incorrect :heh: but anyways if you think there will be a late war version to possibly come out then I'll wait for whenever that release happens . Lets hope it is soon and not take forever unlike a few other kits i can think of..Aka ..Kumano and Suzuya... :Mad_6:


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