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AFAIK, no one has ever fully documented the funnel band changes. I certainly haven't. Too much is unknown.



That we know of. The photo record is woefully incomplete. There aren't even photos of all 19 Kageros. So, the same hurdle remains for the tertiary piping, though there are more commissioning/trials photos of the ships. I think that at least 12 Kageros have photos that can ID this arrangement on funnel #1.

Wow...those are officially the third and fourth pics of Natsushio I've ever seen.

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MS State Guard, 08 March 2014 - 28 January 2023

Dear All

Continuing my research on Yukikaze and before I take my sanding sticks and my strips of Tamiya 0,1mm Plastic Paper to replicate the alternating longitudinal bands to replicate the hull plating, I have to ask my last (?) question of this issue.

I have as my guide Kagero’s Publications 3D plans for IJN Kagero plus photos of the new Pit-Road / Flyhawk 1/700 Yukikaze. They both clearly depict on the ship’s stern, 3 rows of longitudinal bands replicating hull plating above waterline. On the other hand my 1/350 Tamiya kit has 2 rows of longitudinal bands replicating hull plating above waterline.

Dan … any thoughts, Sir?

I can’t make my mind studying photos of the real vessel. Sometimes I “see” 3 rows and other times I “see” 2 rows…

In the end I will choose a path and stick to it… The only reason I make this question is to make sure that there is nothing major I am missing on the ship’s history.

I am NOT going to “count any more rivets” on this issue, but if you have any thoughts on this, I would be grateful to read them.

Thank you All and be safe.

Paris

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Currently building my very first 1/350 model ship Tamiya IJN Yukikaze

I'll bet. Should I hold my breath on this?

Factually, there appear to be 3 bands of plating, BUT the waterline divides the bottom band in half. So, technically, there are two and a half bands above the waterline mark. See below.

The actual end point of Yukikaze's stern in the photo below is just a few feet further to the right and out of view.

Akishimo is a following Yugumo class ship, but the hulls are essentially the same, save for the inclined stern of the Yugumo type. It's pretty clear.

I'll bet. Should I hold my breath on this?

Dan ... I would NOT place my bet on that ... but I have all the good intention to at least try ...

Now ... seriously Sir ... THANK YOU!!! This is exactly what I needed. The 3rd photo is new to me!!! Everything is clear!!!

Wishing you a great weekend.

Regards

Paris

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Currently building my very first 1/350 model ship Tamiya IJN Yukikaze

I just noticed something about Degaussing Cables in the first photo:



The Degaussing Cable here looks to have a “cover” of some sort over it.

While I have seen other photos where the cables are exposed (even on the little Sub-Chasers I am now trying to re-build after a catastrophe with the maid and then flooding — Ironic that ships would be harmed by flooding, even if just models), I have noticed on IJN and Allied Ships that some have what appears to be a cover over the DeGaussing Cable.

Do you know anything about this, and why some look to have a cover (or have a cover in actuality) and some just show the exposed cables with brackets attached directly over the cables?

MB

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1/700 (All Fall 1942):
HIJMS Nagara
HIJMS Aoba & Kinugasa
USS San Francisco
USS Helena
USS St. Louis
USS Laffey & Farenholt
HIJMS Sub-Chasers No. 4 - 7
HIJMS Sub-Chasers No. 13 - 16

Do you know anything about this, and why some look to have a cover (or have a cover in actuality) and some just show the exposed cables with brackets attached directly over the cables?

Well, I'm aware of the practice, but I'm not sure why a box cover was used in some circumstances, and not in others. I suspect that the idea was to provide some protection against sea action, weather, and possibly shell splinters. I think that as the war dragged on, and material shortages loomed, there was less of an inclination to use the enclosure.

This is not a certainty. There are photos of various DDs early in the war either without a cover, or showing a mix of cable in which some, but not all, is exposed. Like the one of Asashio below.

The same is true for larger vessels.