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PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2021 9:11 am 
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Interesting, so the only possible visual indication of Prairie/Masker are what are effectively pipes I'm guessing running outside the pressure hull/exterior cladding?


Right. The hull emitters are often difficult to spot, but the stern ones are very apparent. Although it's not a fleet boat, this photo shows the aft piping on the Tang (the pipes look pretty much the same on GUPPYs):

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Vepr157 wrote:
Woodstock74 wrote:
Interesting, so the only possible visual indication of Prairie/Masker are what are effectively pipes I'm guessing running outside the pressure hull/exterior cladding?


Right. The hull emitters are often difficult to spot, but the stern ones are very apparent. Although it's not a fleet boat, this photo shows the aft piping on the Tang (the pipes look pretty much the same on GUPPYs):

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When did this system originally debut? Did the Soviets ever come up with something similar?


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2021 12:31 pm 
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I'm not sure exactly when it was first at sea, but the idea appears to date from the 1920s, although the application was to provide an acoustic baffle for a destroyer sonar. The use of bubble curtains for quieting came right after WWII. I would guess that the GUPPYs got it around 1960, plus or minus five years maybe.

As for the Russians, I recall seeing a few things on some of their diesel boats that look like girth emitters, but I wasn't able to find much (I don't know what such a system is called in Russian).

I found an interesting paper on the subject (which you can access via sci-hub): https://doi.org/10.1190/1.1441340

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My resin 1/350 version of a Guppy submarine is in the “ What’s New” section. Unfortunately, the ModelWarships main page has not been updated to reflect the posting of my model as well as two additional models.

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Tom Dougherty wrote:
My resin 1/350 version of a Guppy submarine is in the “ What’s New” section. Unfortunately, the ModelWarships main page has not been updated to reflect the posting of my model as well as two additional models.

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Here is Tom's Becuna:

http://www.modelshipgallery.com/gallery ... /index.htm


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Thought this would be of interest to some here, details of the passive sonar on the USS Cochino (some interesting images showing the streamlined sonar plus drawings as well as operating details). I hadn't seen this before, maybe it's also new to others:

https://www.mulsannescorner.com/models/Submarines/USS%20Cochino/AD1135105.pdf


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 22, 2023 11:43 pm 
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Excellent find, thanks for posting!

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