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PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 7:32 pm 
If you want to do research, then you should check this first as to the rules:
http://ussnautilus.org/library/libraryuse.shtml

Wendy Gulley is the Senior Archivist, and a huge help to researchers. That said, I don't know whether they will have that kind of information on the Nautilus, even though it is the museum ship.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 11:03 am 
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Yup, I'm familiar with the rules. I was there a few years ago looking up stuff on early fleet boats.

Neat place.


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I recently got the Micro Mir kit and was looking for any additional opinions/clarifications on the paint for the approximate timeframe of the Polar cruises...so far it looks like red lower hull, med/dk gray upper hull & sail, & black decks...? If that's accurate, what gray would you recommend?

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2016 9:44 am 
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Depends on your time frame. Nautilus went to sea with medium gray and black lower hull. It was later that she was repainted in black, red lower hull and refitted with a new stern and 7 bladed propellers. I seem to recall that the MicroMir kit is for her original North Pole expedition, with the upper deck sonar outfitted. She should be gray with black lower hull and with the original 5 bladed propellers. See this R/C Nautilus for some guidelines on paint (lower part of the page) http://subcommittee.com/forum/showthread.php?36635-USS-Nautilus-final-Edition/page3 and this build of the MicroMir Nautilus, also in Polar cruise configuration (with gray above and black below the waterline). http://www.shipmodels.info/mws_forum/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=155502

Note that the MicroMir kit does not feature the prominent under bow bulge to house the BQR-4 passive sonar. This sonar was useless above 8 knots due to self-noise from the submarine. It was moved up to the top of the bow on Seawolf (SSN 575).

You can see the BQR-4 installation here: http://navsource.org/archives/08/571/0857133.jpg and here: http://imgur.com/9QIo0gu
Some more bow shots from an R/C model project on 571 by Matt Thor:

http://s264.photobucket.com/user/mdthor ... 3.jpg.html
http://s264.photobucket.com/user/mdthor ... 4.jpg.html
http://s264.photobucket.com/user/mdthor ... 3.jpg.html
http://s264.photobucket.com/user/mdthor ... 8.jpg.html

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Thanks for the info Tom, definitely helpful!

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Tom Dougherty wrote:
Note that the MicroMir kit does not feature the prominent under bow bulge to house the BQR-4 passive sonar.


Actually, it does (excuse the current crappy paint):

http://i.imgur.com/8Fr9RXR.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/QVpbELv.jpg

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Yes it does! Subtle, but then so is the original bow sonar. The front angle is convincing, thanks.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 6:41 pm 
Hi,

Can anybody confirm that the Nautilus is 324ft long and 334in (27.8ft) of beam? I see differing info on both dimensions.

Thank you in advance,

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 16, 2017 11:33 am 
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Ed Kotapish wrote:
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Can anybody confirm that the Nautilus is 324ft long and 334in (27.8ft) of beam? I see differing info on both dimensions.

Thank you in advance,

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Friedman says 323' 8.5" and 27' 8" in US Submarines since 1945, which is a pretty reputable source.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2017 9:11 pm 
Much appreciated! Now all I have to do is figure out the hull shape with 11 sections and a load of photos!!!!!

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I have a very large (3 feet in length, 2 feet wide), complete set of half hull sections with probably 30-40 stations represented, as well as side, top & bottom views (including flood ports for ballast tanks). These were drawn by Jim Christly employing the original ship set of plans now at the Submarine Force Museum & Library in Groton, CT The overall hull shape is correct, as far as I can tell. Length is listed as 319' 6" and 27' 6" beam.

I have no idea how to reproduce something as large as the 3 sheets of drawings.

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Guest wrote:
Much appreciated! Now all I have to do is figure out the hull shape with 11 sections and a load of photos!!!!!

Ed


I received your email via the website requesting the drawings, but there is no direct reply link to you in the email. There are no email or PM buttons below your post above.

I have had made at Staples full size copies of the three Jim Christley Nautilus drawings (made at Groton from the original SSN 571 Nautilus plan sets; including roughly 40-50 hull cross sections) and have a mailing tube to send them to you. However, what I don't have is your email address, or your name and mail address. Your email to me was devoid of all of these details.

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Hi Tom,

Thanks for going ahead and printing the plans. I've checked my settings and it looks like I am set up to show profile, private message, etc. And it appears to be working now.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2017 7:54 am 
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Ed,
The three large plan sheets are in the mailing tube, all addressed and ready to go. I will go to the Post Office on Saturday morning to mail the tube, so you should see these sometime the middle of next week.

Tom

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Thanks again Tom!

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Last week I bought a large model of the SSN 571. It is around 150 cm long and I would like to share some photos with you guys as I don't know anything about that model. Maybe you have some infos on this. Is it a regular model set or one of a kind… Thank you.


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We would need some more photos from several angles to really judge accuracy. I can't tell whether it is photographic distortion, but the bow shape at the extreme left looks ....slightly weird; see: http://navsource.org/archives/08/571/0857161.jpg for bow shape on the real thing. Also, the sail appears to have a forward edge sweep back. Nautilus has no leading edge sail sweep (see: http://navsource.org/archives/08/571/0857124.jpg ). If you zoom in on this photo, it gives you a good side view of Nautilus sail and bow (http://navsource.org/archives/08/571/0857117a.jpg ).

One of the earliest Revell Nautilus models had, among other inaccuracies, a swept forward edge on the sail. That could be the source of this feature.

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