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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 6:55 pm 
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I also see that Five Star also makes a short 8cm/23.5 (3-in) gun. Some of the sub-chasers had these in lieu of the 40mm Pom-Pom or the 3rd Year Type 8cm/40.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 2:12 am 
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Yes they are new :woo_hoo: .
I had needed them for my Wa-1 Minesweeper.
So a welcome additon :thumbs_up_1: from Fivestar.
It becomes more and more my favorite company :big_grin: .

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 8:19 am 
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MatthewB wrote:
...I cannot find any information about SC 103. SC 102 was the Captured USS Stewart (DD-224), a Clemson-class 4-stacker. It was technically known as PB-102, but was used as a Sub-Chaser. ...


Patrol boat and sub chaser number ranges denoted different boats. Auxiliary Sub-Chaser 103 was Cha 103, a former Dutch Mine sweeper of class B1.

Cha102 was the former Ardjoeno.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 8:43 pm 
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Hi

Im trying to build the Five Star Type 1 Submarine Chaser

I have a question, is the deck all steel? Or is it with linoleum or even wooden deck?

Thanks in advance.


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As far as I can tell, the deck was all steel.

I like these little sub-chaser kits. As soon as I can get my desk re-cleared off, I hope to finish the three I had started (and nearly finished before my cat chewed them - I had to order replacement PE from Rainbow and Five Star).

The Five Star kits are a bit sturdier than the Rainbow kits, as well.

But, from my reference materials, it looks like the decking is all steel. It had the tread-pattern on some of them.

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MatthewB wrote:
As far as I can tell, the deck was all steel.

I like these little sub-chaser kits. As soon as I can get my desk re-cleared off, I hope to finish the three I had started (and nearly finished before my cat chewed them - I had to order replacement PE from Rainbow and Five Star).

The Five Star kits are a bit sturdier than the Rainbow kits, as well.

But, from my reference materials, it looks like the decking is all steel. It had the tread-pattern on some of them.

MB


Thanks on this, i'll now start priming and painting


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2019 9:01 am 
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Hi

Im stumped at the instructions of thw five star models for their Type 1 Submarine chaser. The instructions call for a dual gun mount but does not indicate where to put them, although obviously at the bow but i cant find enough references that indeed there was a gun mounted there.

Forgive me for the ignorance but are these sub chasers un armed except for their depth charges?

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They typically had single dual 40mm Vickers Automatic Guns (similar to the British Pom-Pom, but only two guns, side-by-side).

These were known as the 40mm/62 (1.575") "HI" Type 91:

http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNJAP_40mm-62_HI.php

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Sorry that there isn't a better image of one of these that I can easily track down.

Some ships would have the 8cm/40 (Actual 7.62cm or 3") 3rd Year Type, 11th Year Type, or Type 88:

http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNJAP_3-40_3ns.php

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The 8cm/40 was found mostly on the later Type Sub-Chasers, such as the No. 13-class and No. 28-class. But I can swear that I can see one on one of the No. 4-class Sub-Chasers (But it could also be a board).

But Sub-Chaser #1 had the 40mm Vickers gun, and later had it replaced by a dual version.

No one makes a decent one, and I have had to scratch-build them out of styrene (I do have a 3D file for the gun, but have yet to get it printed due to a computer failure that I have yet to fix).

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2019 11:12 am 
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Thanks a lot Matthew!


So the 40 mm is a single gun variant for the early or i stick with the kit supplied dual 40mm for the late? TIA

intending to depict the CH 1 or CH2 assisting the invasion of Aparri in '42


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rafacarasig wrote:
Thanks a lot Matthew!


So the 40 mm is a single gun variant for the early or i stick with the kit supplied dual 40mm for the late? TIA

intending to depict the CH 1 or CH2 assisting the invasion of Aparri in '42


As far as I can tell, that isn’t a PE "HI” Type 91 dual-40mm that comes with the No. 1 Sub-Chaser, but rather a plain-old Type 96 25mm or Type 93 13mm twin-AA Gun Mount.

That was one of the reasons I started with my No. 13 Sub-Chasers, as they had the 8cm guns, which Five Star makes proper models for.

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I haven't the kit yet but from the layout it seems the No.1 kit has the 40 mm gun.
It looks similar to the one supplied in the No.53 kit.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2019 1:59 pm 
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ch hoeltge wrote:
I haven't the kit yet but from the layout it seems the No.1 kit has the 40 mm gun.
It looks similar to the one supplied in the No.53 kit.

Greetings Christian


I think those are just Type 93 or 96 AA Guns (13mm or 25mm).

I haven't seen anything in any of the kits that looks like the 40mm Pom-Pom.

I've built one out of Styrene, and the base to one of the 80mm AA Guns from Five Star.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 3:35 pm 
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Niko makes a 1/700 40mm.


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Hi.

MatthewB wrote:
They typically had single dual 40mm Vickers Automatic Guns (similar to the British Pom-Pom, but only two guns, side-by-side).

These were known as the 40mm/62 (1.575") "HI" Type 91:

http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNJAP_40mm-62_HI.php

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Sorry that there isn't a better image of one of these that I can easily track down.

....

MB


Here is a pic of the twin barreled version:

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Yours

tom! ;)


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Good shot of the 40mm on what looks like one of 251 class.

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Hi all,

Im curious if anyone knows the colors of these ships? Deck, hull, superstructure.
I have the Rainbow No 28 I'm about to start and am hoping for some guidance towards paint.

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Clair


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Hulls and treaded metal decks are grey. From what I can see of the kit ( http://www.rainbowmodel.com/proshow.asp?proid=211 ), the decking is all treaded, which means no linoleum coverings.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2022 8:55 pm 
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Thank you Dan,

That's what I was thinking but I'm no specialist in IJN in the least.
Reference material on these boats seems very lacking when compared to other nations.

Thanks,

Clair


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