bwross11 wrote:
Welcome Jepot,
Saw your posting and was thinking of the challenge of reproducing one of these ships in 1/700. I think that a Bulkley class DE hull is going to be your best chance. There is a 5ft. difference between the classes in length and overall lenght (5ft = .087"). You could glue some .040" strips to the sides and blend in the extra width. I think your biggest challange is going to be the stern; they are entirely different. If you look on Navsource for pictures of the AVPs you'll note that the sterns are more squared off than the DEs. There are probably several ways to handle this depending on how much pain you want to endure and how accurate. The other difference to note is that the AVPs did not have a sharp deck edge similar to the DEs; instead about 8ft from the bow a round over starts that carries to within about 20ft of the stern. This is easily modeled by just sanding the round on the edge.
Anyway, good luck; look forward to see your project and progress.
best,
Bruce
Bruce
wow, thanks for the advice; yes, i have an extrs Buckley in my stash ( though i intend to make it an APD - thats ANOTHER story...) but yes,a s i had said, the shape of the hull would be the killer here - but better that than cutting up my fletcher; the reason why i thought of my fletcher was the similarity of the bridge superstructure to a barnegat at first look; along with some stuff i can kitbash from the fletcher; now if only the stuff i intend to get from the fletcher fits on the buckley, and most of all if i have the time....
NukeMM wrote:
You all have got me side-tracked now!
With Jepot's suggestion of a 1/700 Barnegat and Bruce's suggestion of a Buckley class DE hull, I just might look into bashing my own.
Jepot, are you thinking full hull or waterline model of the Andres Bonifacio?
A waterline model would be easier, to me. A Buckley hull's steeper bow angle could be shaved down and the stern could be rounded off.
Skywave makes (made) a 1/700 waterline Buckley kit.
There is a review of the kit at
http://www.modelwarships.com/reviews/ships/de/de-51/de-51-700.htmlHmmmm!
nuke,
id rather do a waterline - thats all i have anc could spare for now amongst the hulls i have.
considering the conficguration of the PF7, specially the radar suite she had, i was really thinking of doing two projects of a similar vein at the same time- a DER and the AVP; both had ( i think ) the SPS 29 radars along with a tripod mast that ahs to be scratchbuilt so hopefully hitting two birds with one stone there... the first tripod mast i got to buidl in 700 scale was with another DE, the PS76 RPS Datu Kalantiaw, a Cannon class dE i posted in the Cannon class fans thread.
anyway, if i do get the plans and time ( the drive and the kits are there,,,) to start this projet- as i said its a holy grail project for me,....
bwross11 wrote:
Guys,
I think what would be needed would be to straighthen the sides of the hull going aft. A DE slims down quite a bit from the waist to the stern; an AVP on the other hand has a pretty constant width aft to just forward of the screws. So the side pieces would have to thicken the hull running aft. Additionally, I was thinking about it and, if you're going to do a water-line you're going to have to add some material to the lower hull to raise it up out of the water some more. The AVP sits higher out of the water than does a DE.I'm not sure if a Tamiya Fletcher bridge structure would work because I think it's not the same diameter as the AVP; if I have time I'll pull some of my plans and see if I can verify for you.Good modeling,
Bruce
yeah Bruce- thanks for this pretty important note! as i said thought the brdige of the tamiya fletcher was same as the AVPs...grossly as it seems, ONLY... hoping for the plans and comparisons....
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