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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 12:25 pm 
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Jon wrote:

Also, which of the kits is closest to HMCS Sackville?

Unfortunately, all of them are equally poor choices for Sackville. Sackville, pre-refit, was a short-forecastle unit. All of the Mirage kits are long forecastles. Post-refit, she received the long forecastle, but also received a new open bridge that none of the Mirage kits contain. There was also what I call a "half refit" that gave her the new bridge without giving her the long forecastle, but that's the worst of both worlds.

So your option for the Mirage kit would entail scratchbuilding a completely new bridge while keeping the long forecastle hull.

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Not afraid to do a bit of scratch building, so thanks for the tips as to which is best. So which has the long forecastle hull?

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Tracy White wrote:
All of the Mirage kits have the same (mineweeper gear) hull.

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Perfect, all the hulls are the same. Thanks!

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Unfortunately no model or sprue shots yet. http://data4.primeportal.net/models/tho ... _of_94.jpg :wave_1:


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If their photograph choice is accurate, then it really isn't much of an "early" type. Wish it was a short forecastle at least, preferably with the enclosed bridge.

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I hope Revell didn't simply scale down their 1/72 Flower, along with all the inaccuracies and ugliness! :big_grin:


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Probably not - when the 1/72 was made, they didn't use a CAD, so short of pantographing down the 1/72 molds the old fashioned way, they'll have to create a completely new CAD for the 1/144.

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Hope they use a better set of plans for the new one! :big_grin:


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2015 3:57 pm 
No news yet on the two New mirage hobby flowerpower class boats Thatcher were listen as soon in their 2015 catalog?

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I caught HMCS Sackville underway last week albeit with the help of a couple tugs unfortunately one is visible at the quester deck. It was returning from, I believe, from a defence conference being held else where in Halifax harbour. This photography opportunity happens a few times year normally when Sackville is moved back and forth from the RCN dockyard to its summer location in a public area.


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The open bridge required for hmcs Sackville is provided in the WEM PE set 1:350, suitable for the Mirage kits. It had just become available again, check out the WEM site.

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In the case of mine-sweeping equipped corvettes fitted with a Chapman steam winch, were the Oropesa float powered davits driven off the main winch drums, or off the gypsy heads on the ends of the winch? All I've found out is that the powered davits were definitely driven from the steam winch. :wave_1:


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Not sure specifically on the Flower Classes, but in general the mechanical sweeps using the O-floats used the main winch drums. A lot of tension on the sweep cables pulling the float, the otters, kits, and cutters. Gypsy heads appear to be used for general line handling and davits- at least on the Admirable class and YMS sweepers.

By the way, Cybermodeler's showing an update for Eduard's future releases. Railings for the new Revell kit and Weapon Details for the same kit. Not sure what will all be included with each, but maybe some of the ladders that you were looking for on the General Forum.

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Thanks. I scratch-built the steam winch and the powered davits, but wasn't sure if the davit cable came off the gypsy or cable drum. So this confirms it. Thanks. :wave_1:


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George W wrote:
I caught HMCS Sackville underway last week albeit with the help of a couple tugs unfortunately one is visible at the quester deck. It was returning from, I believe, from a defence conference being held else where in Halifax harbour. This photography opportunity happens a few times year normally when Sackville is moved back and forth from the RCN dockyard to its summer location in a public area.


Thanks for posting the pic.

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I don't know about the Corvettes, but on the US Admirable class minesweepers and the YMS minesweepers, the minesweeping davits were hand powered. The YMS used block and tackle gear on the davits for lifting the kites, otters, and floats. The Admirable class used a hand wheel to rotate the davit (might have also had a clutch type device to extend/retract the boom of the davit-but not sure about that) and a hand cranked winch for raising and lowering anything on the end of the hook.


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I have a reference pic of the steam winch powered davits on a Corvette, but the pic is from water level off the ship and impossible to tell where the cable runs. Although some (maybe a lot) of the Corvettes had the hand-powered davits. :wave_1:


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