R.N. Roma - 1:350, Trumpeter, Full Hull - Public Build II

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R.N. Roma - 1:350, Trumpeter, Full Hull - Public Build II

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Here is a link to the completed build -Pics still dead there....working on it.

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:shipcaptain: Ahoy!

This model has already been completed.

I have decided to publish this build in two parts.

-The first part here in the WIP section will contain a record of construction with a brief overview of technique.

-The second part is intended to be a gallery of the completed model with history, areas of interest, and miscellaneous commentary.

I do not plan of releasing all related content immediately, so this will read like a more traditional write as building happens post. My intention is to be able to provide more regular content updates independent of building delays. Depending on how well this method is received and how much fun I have in writing it, there may be more. Anyway, enough blather.

In 2012, Trumpeter released the first plastic offerings of a Littorio class battleship in both 1:700 and 1:350 scale. Both kits were of the Roma, the first of the second pair of a four ship class. The Roma was ten feet (~3 meters) longer to incorporate a less wet bow design and a significantly improved bridge configuration. There were also a number of minor alterations and improvements that make tooling an accurate Roma a separate proposition from a Littorio or a Vittorio Veneto kit.

Sean Hert was kind enough to review this kit here on ModelWarships: http://www.modelwarships.com/reviews/sh ... eview.html

As I did not record any sprue shots or virgin plastic, please refer to his excellent review for specific details of the unbuilt kit.

From my experiences with Trumpeter, I tend to characterize their kits into five generations:
1 - repops and copies of prexisting kits.
2 - first generation of their own tools in the early 2000s.
3 - second generation tool in the late 2000s.
4 - the first wave of truly superlative kits in terms of engineering.
5 - the last few years of converging their technical capabilities with improving levels of accuracy.

I consider the Roma to be very much a transitional kit between the 3rd and 4th waves of kits. Fit was generally quite good, but some components had some excess play, and there were in my view some hallmark Trumpeter build frustrations. There are also a number of inaccurate shapes, more on that later, not a concern of mine for this build. The 350 Roma is a contemporary of the 1:200 Arizona which I possess, there are a great many things alike about the two kits. What is true for one, is also true for the other, although the Roma is a much, much more accurate kit in terms of hull form.

My primary reference material was Bagnasco and De Toro's The Littorio Class from USNI Press. A superlative and comprehensive work, I recommend it heartily for anyone with an interest in these gorgeous ships. The provide a fairly decent set of drawings to work with although not as comprehensive as I would have liked, particularly with regards to rigging. I will be relying a great deal on these two in my final gallery when I write about the prototype.

I have 178 photographs of the build to work with so let's launch with the next post.
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This thread looks like it will be a very interesting and informative project. Will be following this build with interest.
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I tend to complete my models in subsections, often with rigging, before I apply paint so as to be even in my applications of color or pigment.

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The interior of the funnels were completely devoid of detail. Lacking an adequate down funnel shot I made something up with straw sections and plastic tubing.

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A superior image.

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Dry fit.

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Another view.

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With the funnel of my long overdue Prinz Eugen. Inspiration died hard on that one.
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The Roma was also one of the first ships kits I know of to get a dedicated detail up set from Trumpeter. Highly recommended. I enjoyed it very much.

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And here is the instruction sheet for it. Turned aluminium barrels, semi brass screws, and ship specific railing sections. The kit 381mm rifles have a nasty seam, almost justifies the purchase alone.

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Starting to look like a proper battleship!

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An imposing skyline for sure.

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The crane PE is actually native to the kit. Went together fairly easily. This thickness of the brass was pretty much ideal in my view, much better than other Trumpeter PE I have worked with.
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One particular set of components I found frustration were the deck spools. This objects are used for coiling hose or steel cable. They are unusable OOB. Without reverting to another PE set, I elected to wrap them in brass wire.

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First, I drilled a hole in an inconspicuous place.

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Then, with the brass line, proceeded to twist around the spool rods.

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The first finished set. There were 21 in total in two sizes, if I recall correctly.

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A less than ideal image, but it does lend a sense of scale.

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The smaller spools I drilled on the sprue. These items are appreciably smaller than the larger ones.

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The bear itself. Eight spools aft. Part of the equipment on the aircraft handling deck. From reference images, it appears that these lines were often used to help move aircraft although not exclusively.
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I do apply railing before painting, I find it much easier overall to do it this way.

I prefer to glue my railing to the outside of the hull with medium to heavy CA. I feel that the flat side of the PE has better adhesion potential than the base of the railing. This also allows me to glue fairly lengthy sections without cutting them. I start at one end and work slowly with a toothpick. If there are gaps or places where the glue does not hold, I go back over with white glue or thin CA depending on the join to correct the error. It can be tedious...

By the way, I have figured out how to resize my images, please let me know if you prefer the thumbnail links.

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I try to input a little bit of sag with a toothpick (gently!!) after I am certain the glue is set. I usually cheat and use an accelerator if I can't brace the part.

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Railings installed on the superstructure.

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Overview image.

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Fuzzy. :pout: Applied rough pencil guides for the eventual candy cane recognition stripes. Also shows railing faintly.

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Et al.

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Stern.

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The bear in the shadows. All finished!

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The stern with the smoke generators and other toys.

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Nice bit of molding. Brass letters over plastic relief. I think they wanted my to sand off the plastic detail, but I wanted them proud to make painting them easier. So I mounted the PE directly over the preexisting letters.

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Some more detail work on the second barbette. The ladders are present in the prototype but Trumpeter makes no mention of them. I encourage keeping scrap PE on hand for this one.

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I ink raised bits with brights colors to discourage myself from wrecking my work.

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I love the bow of this thing. Even without paint is a thing of beauty to me.
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Time for the hull. The bilge keel are molded as separate parts. Not terribly thin but workable.

I chose not to add hull weld line but rather to rely on preshading techniques to achieve depth and demarcation effects for this build. This is a departure from normal tactics for me.

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I sanded and polished the hull gradually shifting from 320 grain to 2000. I find that Trumpeter's signature red plastic bottoms need sanding to grab and hold the paint.
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She looks good! One of my favorite classes.
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Joe Simon wrote:She looks good! One of my favorite classes.
ModelMonkey wrote:Superb! Truly inspirational!
Thank you!! :big_grin:

More to come soon.
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good looking build :thumbs_up_1:

If is of interest...


here is my build of the Roma whilst she was till still in the builders hands...

sea trials

( non-camouflage)

built from the Axis models Roma kit

article link here at MW.com

http://www.modelwarships.com/reviews/sh ... eview.html

HTH

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JIM BAUMANN wrote:good looking build :thumbs_up_1:

If is of interest...


here is my build of the Roma whilst she was till still in the builders hands...

sea trials

( non-camouflage)

built from the Axis models Roma kit

article link here at MW.com

http://www.modelwarships.com/reviews/sh ... eview.html

HTH

JB

Thanks for jumping in, JB.

Yes, your build was of great interest. A beautiful ship in any clothes. Really love looking at your Roma again. The AA suite is definitely a cut above the plastic units from Trumpeter.

I used your work for a good deal of rigging inspiration. Although I went with the kit's extra flimsy plastic spars rather than metal with predictable results...
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All part when ready for painting:

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Now for painting.

The hull was primed with a near black automotive primer.

There is no detail on the red plastic hull. To achieve the effects of rivet lines, weld seams, and oil canning I chose to rely on preshading.

This is because I was short on masking tape for my usual methods.

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Primered hull.
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Adding a dark turquoise to lighten parts of the hull and provide depth.
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Et al.
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Etc.
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Using tape, old business cards, and cut out paper decide on a pattern for the hull effects. Remember that oil canning does not happen on the armor itself because it is thick enough to resist the effects.
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The vertical lines.
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Finished product.
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With the green.
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Green was and is a very common color for anti-fouling. The Royal Italian navy used shades of green almost exclusively. There is, however, very little definite material on the subject in English. I have seen bright green, forest green, olive green, and almost aqua interpretations. I chose to moderate the color and selected a Polly Scale Pullman Green to be a little darker and more olive colored than the probably original color. I also wanted the color to play nicely with all the weathering I was going to do.

The final effect (which will be revealed soon :thumbs_up_1: ) I find quite satisfying.
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Some great progress! This is going to look good.
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Great technique! Will be watching for more updates and possibly copy some methods :thumbs_up_1: !

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Thanks for checking in Aop. :wave_1:

Looking forward to your next update on your Lion and Tirpitz projects.
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Masking is tedious.....no intermediate photographs. My mistake.

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Ready?
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Time to pull the tape off!
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And now drum roll please. :big_grin:

The Stripes!

Trumpeter provides different line schematics in their Roma kits. On the the prototype there should be 8 red stripes and 7 white at 45 degrees from the keel starting forward end towards bow on the port side.

Here is the image from the 1:700 Roma kit:
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It has the correct angle but an insufficient number of stripes.

Here is the image from the 1:350 kit:
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Correct number of stripes, more or less, but the angle is too shallow.

Clearly there must be a compromise.
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And here is my compromise.

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Mostly complete masking. Using thin Testor's tape (horrid adhesion) and the standard Tamiya.

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Base coats applied. Some very minor tidying up to do.

And here is the mostly weathering final product.
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And a teaser of the aircraft deck.
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