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PostPosted: Sat Jul 23, 2022 11:54 am 
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Ah yes, drafted for 'Yardbird" duty, good luck with the project , though maybe this is more a project for a CB Battalion. If they show up examine their orders carefully, you might end up overnight with a new airstrip complete with PSP in the yard.

Yes rapid evolution in technology tends to result in rapid obsolescence. The commercially printed parts from a couple of years ago in some case became superseded before you got to install them. I've in several cases gone back and updated elements with greater detail.

Looking forward to your next updates! Tom


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 10:35 pm 
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The major portion of my "yardbird" projects are complete with only deck painting left to do (at this point, who knows what The Admiral will come up with next :doh_1: )

So, today/tonight I've been working on designing the after stack AFT yardarm, antennae, and supports. Here's a progress shot -
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144 scaled DD566 After Stack Aft Yardarm & Antennas_2.JPG
144 scaled DD566 After Stack Aft Yardarm & Antennas_2.JPG [ 42.72 KiB | Viewed 492 times ]

The object in purple is a rendition of the after stack & bottom of stack cap from the kit parts for sizing, etc. I've actually gotten a bit further but haven't made an update photo as yet. I had already created/printed the two NT66131 antennas separately, but decided to go ahead and add them to the yardarm and print everything together since I had good luck doing the same on the forward yardarm. Can't argue with success, right! :thumbs_up_1:

The printer is currently in the maintenance shop for minor overhaul (sort of like pier-side availability in the real NAV!!! :heh: ). I hope to have it up & running in a day or so. Of course, this is as long as The Admiral & her Cat are not out cruising to give me a bruising :bash_2:

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Builder's yard:
USS STODDARD (DD-566) 66-68 1:144, USS-LSM/R-194 1:144
Finished:
USS NEW JERSEY (BB-62) 67-69 1:200
USN Sloop/Ship PEACOCK (1813) 1:48
ROYAL CAROLINE (1748) 1:47
AVS (1768) 1:48


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2022 1:48 am 
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Another great add-on Hank:

It's rather amazing what can print when the stars are aligned!

Best regards: Tom


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Fliger747 wrote:
Another great add-on Hank:
It's rather amazing what can print when the stars are aligned!
Best regards: Tom


Tru dat! :thumbs_up_1:

OK, so here is the final version (at this point, that is!) -
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144 scaled DD566 Aft Stack Aft Yardarm & Antennas_1.JPG
144 scaled DD566 Aft Stack Aft Yardarm & Antennas_1.JPG [ 57.67 KiB | Viewed 468 times ]

The purple objects will not be printed (obviously :doh_1: )

See what happens in the next day or so - printer is still in maintenance mode.

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Builder's yard:
USS STODDARD (DD-566) 66-68 1:144, USS-LSM/R-194 1:144
Finished:
USS NEW JERSEY (BB-62) 67-69 1:200
USN Sloop/Ship PEACOCK (1813) 1:48
ROYAL CAROLINE (1748) 1:47
AVS (1768) 1:48


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Currently working on designing the Steam Whistles & piping for the Forward Stack -
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144 scaled DD566 Steam Whistle & Piping_1.JPG
144 scaled DD566 Steam Whistle & Piping_1.JPG [ 26.84 KiB | Viewed 448 times ]

This is incomplete but shows the basic unit - to modify the kit supplied part to the 1960s version would probably end up with several broken pieces and I, like Willie, prefer to make my own and include a few things the kit parts don't. Whether these all print out is another thing, but I'm adding the steam valves and so forth so we'll know soon enough whether they print or come out as a blob :huh:

I may get this finished in time to add it to the print file with the after stack aft yardarm, etc.

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Builder's yard:
USS STODDARD (DD-566) 66-68 1:144, USS-LSM/R-194 1:144
Finished:
USS NEW JERSEY (BB-62) 67-69 1:200
USN Sloop/Ship PEACOCK (1813) 1:48
ROYAL CAROLINE (1748) 1:47
AVS (1768) 1:48


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Hank:

Always worth pushing the limits, one never knows. I was surprised at how well 1:500 Quad Bofors and 3" 50's came out.

Good Luck! Tom


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Fliger747 wrote:
Hank:
Always worth pushing the limits, one never knows. I was surprised at how well 1:500 Quad Bofors and 3" 50's came out.
Good Luck! Tom


Tom,
Yes indeed! I was glad that you got good results on your first attempt with the 1:500 parts.

I've finished the design for the Steam Whistle & piping -
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144 scaled DD566 Steam Whistle & Piping_2.JPG
144 scaled DD566 Steam Whistle & Piping_2.JPG [ 19.18 KiB | Viewed 423 times ]

It's been added to the Chitu print file along with (3) of the Aft Stack After Yardarm Assemblies and perhaps I'll get the printer back online this weekend and see what happens. always an experiment at this stage of the game!

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Builder's yard:
USS STODDARD (DD-566) 66-68 1:144, USS-LSM/R-194 1:144
Finished:
USS NEW JERSEY (BB-62) 67-69 1:200
USN Sloop/Ship PEACOCK (1813) 1:48
ROYAL CAROLINE (1748) 1:47
AVS (1768) 1:48


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 6:16 pm 
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It should print! I need to replace my FEP for larger prints, right in the middle there is a frosted section of FEP . Smaller items I can print around the sides. This is a much larger FEP so I'll have to see if I have a big enough piece, hope so! I printed the 1:500 weapons in Goopy grey, I expect they would have been slightly better in Rapid BlackResin. The challenge with these is sometimes de platforming and mounting with out breaking them.

Have heard of steam whistles being stuck on with some types of battle damage, very distracting!

Cheers: Tom


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Fliger747 wrote:
It should print! I need to replace my FEP for larger prints, right in the middle there is a frosted section of FEP. Smaller items I can print around the sides. This is a much larger FEP, so I'll have to see if I have a big enough piece, hope so! I printed the 1:500 weapons in Goopy grey, I expect they would have been slightly better in Rapid Black Resin. The challenge with these is sometimes de platforming and mounting without breaking them.
Have heard of steam whistles being stuck on with some types of battle damage, very distracting!
Cheers: Tom


Tom,
Indeed - wasn't it Steamboat Willie (Walt's 1st animated short?) who was piloting the riverboat and the whistle got stuck?? Well, hire a mouse instead of a Pilot....duh, a no brainer :lol_3:

Will hope to print the yardarm & steam whistle soon - a bit cooler here and the shop more tolerable during the day!

Hope your FEP stock is large enough to do the trick - otherwise, you'll be dialing Amazon for a delivery!!!

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Builder's yard:
USS STODDARD (DD-566) 66-68 1:144, USS-LSM/R-194 1:144
Finished:
USS NEW JERSEY (BB-62) 67-69 1:200
USN Sloop/Ship PEACOCK (1813) 1:48
ROYAL CAROLINE (1748) 1:47
AVS (1768) 1:48


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While looking for one of the sprues to the kit for only one part, I realized that I've either lost or misplaced it. However, after reviewing a couple of photos that I and Ens. Shutte took of STODDARD in 1968 that showed the after stack from the back, that the kit part would not be correct, so it wasn't all that much of a problem. So, tonight I designed the corrected vent pipe that has an offset that wasn't there in the '40s. So, one more part to be printed; don't know if it will fit on the file I've got ready with two other parts aforementioned -
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144 scaled DD566 Aft Stack Vent Pipe.JPG
144 scaled DD566 Aft Stack Vent Pipe.JPG [ 20.13 KiB | Viewed 389 times ]


Of course, I have no doubts about it printing, but it may need some tweaking on the angled legs at the bottom. This was a pretty easy part to design, unlike a lot of them that are real bears.

Hank

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Builder's yard:
USS STODDARD (DD-566) 66-68 1:144, USS-LSM/R-194 1:144
Finished:
USS NEW JERSEY (BB-62) 67-69 1:200
USN Sloop/Ship PEACOCK (1813) 1:48
ROYAL CAROLINE (1748) 1:47
AVS (1768) 1:48


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All parts printed out very well and are now drying. I'll cure them later this evening and then start to build the stacks as I "think I've got all the necessary parts printed that will be needed for construction.

With Admiralty projects pretty much completed, I hope to get a bit of actual model construction done this fall. We'll see....nothing is every certain these days :thinking:

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Builder's yard:
USS STODDARD (DD-566) 66-68 1:144, USS-LSM/R-194 1:144
Finished:
USS NEW JERSEY (BB-62) 67-69 1:200
USN Sloop/Ship PEACOCK (1813) 1:48
ROYAL CAROLINE (1748) 1:47
AVS (1768) 1:48


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While contemplating the further construction of the stacks, it occurred to me that using the Edward PE sets that I have for additonal detailing would involve "iffy" at best locating and cementing of miniscule parts to the kit stack cap - and I decided to go ahead and design/print them myself including the hand grabs and rings that would need to be added as a one-piece unit. So, here is the effort that is now on the printer -
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144 scaled DD566 Stack Cap (Typ).JPG
144 scaled DD566 Stack Cap (Typ).JPG [ 82.02 KiB | Viewed 330 times ]

This will be typical for both stacks so no need to do a 2nd one. If this prints out ok, then I may go ahead and add a couple other additional details that will differentiate the fore & aft caps. Having the actual parts handy to take exact measurements from certainly helps in designing so that the cap fits the top of the stack as neatly as the kit parts fit together. Adjusts can always be made!

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Builder's yard:
USS STODDARD (DD-566) 66-68 1:144, USS-LSM/R-194 1:144
Finished:
USS NEW JERSEY (BB-62) 67-69 1:200
USN Sloop/Ship PEACOCK (1813) 1:48
ROYAL CAROLINE (1748) 1:47
AVS (1768) 1:48


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The stack caps printed with only a minor adjustment to be made on the 2 curved frames at the top. I've made the adjustment -
Attachment:
144 scaled DD566 Stack Cap (Typ).JPG
144 scaled DD566 Stack Cap (Typ).JPG [ 83.35 KiB | Viewed 318 times ]

And the new version (2) are now printing. I also beefed up the antenna support rods on the aft stack after yardarm and it is printing, as well.

Should know in a couple hours how these came out. As I've mentioned before, this is a trial & error development project - nothing is guaranteed.

Hank

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Builder's yard:
USS STODDARD (DD-566) 66-68 1:144, USS-LSM/R-194 1:144
Finished:
USS NEW JERSEY (BB-62) 67-69 1:200
USN Sloop/Ship PEACOCK (1813) 1:48
ROYAL CAROLINE (1748) 1:47
AVS (1768) 1:48


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As a note, the rails and hand rungs as seen in Design Spark mechanical look quite hefty, but in the actual printing come out quite fine and airy. Should look good Hank!


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Tom,

Yes, they come out ok - however, the last print run (2) the lower rings came out "sort of" - so, I've slightly increased the diameter, reoriented at a slight angle from dead flat, and will now print the 4th rendition (2.5 hours).

Here's a shot of the existing cap and steam whistle -
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Resized_20220815_122529.jpeg [ 85.47 KiB | Viewed 281 times ]

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Resized_20220815_122600.jpeg [ 84.28 KiB | Viewed 281 times ]


I've got six on this next print run, so I should have more than enough - the one I've got may work but doesn't have the front break in the lower hand ring which may be necessary.

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Builder's yard:
USS STODDARD (DD-566) 66-68 1:144, USS-LSM/R-194 1:144
Finished:
USS NEW JERSEY (BB-62) 67-69 1:200
USN Sloop/Ship PEACOCK (1813) 1:48
ROYAL CAROLINE (1748) 1:47
AVS (1768) 1:48


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My last print run this evening - 4 out of 6 stack caps came out excellent, which is more than I'll need!!! Perhaps a photo sometime tomorrow - they're drying now overnight.

Also, printed 3 new stack vent pipes as the one I was working on (removing the supports) I broke. So, these have also been printed, dried, cured, and painted - ready to go!! I'll use the kit supplied part for the after stack as it will work as is.

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Builder's yard:
USS STODDARD (DD-566) 66-68 1:144, USS-LSM/R-194 1:144
Finished:
USS NEW JERSEY (BB-62) 67-69 1:200
USN Sloop/Ship PEACOCK (1813) 1:48
ROYAL CAROLINE (1748) 1:47
AVS (1768) 1:48


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The key to push button 3D printing is persistence! Be great to see the shipyard evolve as all the components arrive dockside!

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Well, small deficiencies in the caps required further design and new printing - I now have basically 4 stack caps that can work - I'll pick the two best and go with them. I've also resized the stack vent pipes as they were too long - and added a slight angle to the after pipe that I had missed in the photo. It doesn't vent straight back, but slightly to port. These will be printed later today.

The weekend and yesterday were spent (on a whim!) designing and now printing the 01 Level After Deckhouse & Mt. 33 gun tub. I also designed & printed the Mk. 56 barbette and platform - these items I already had scratch built last year but was a bit unhappy with their appearance. So, last Friday I began working on DSM to create the deckhouse and then the rangefinder assembly. Here are design shots of these parts:
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144 scaled DD566 01 Level After Deckhouse & Mt. 33 Gun Tub.JPG
144 scaled DD566 01 Level After Deckhouse & Mt. 33 Gun Tub.JPG [ 44.18 KiB | Viewed 172 times ]

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144 scaled DD566 Mk. 56 FCD Barbette & Platform.JPG
144 scaled DD566 Mk. 56 FCD Barbette & Platform.JPG [ 43.45 KiB | Viewed 172 times ]

I've also designed/printed the comm. antenna that sits on the fwd. platform in front of the Mk. 56 barbette. One of the problems with the original handmade item was the small cleats/rings on the sides of the deckhouse and for this I designed a separate 8mm x 10mm panel that fits into a similar sized recess on each side of the deckhouse -
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144 scaled DD566 After Replenishment Panel.JPG
144 scaled DD566 After Replenishment Panel.JPG [ 38.76 KiB | Viewed 172 times ]

I only designed the stbd side and using the MIRROR command, created the port side item in Chitubox (slicing program). These are printing now with the deckhouse.

So, around 1pm today I should know if the deckhouse printed and if it's useable - always a question as Tom & I have found out - this is NOT a push button hobby!

Now I'm thinking about design/printing the 2 different sized vent grating that will be needed for the small bulkhead vents on the deckhouse. At this scale it's hard to get very fine wire to print without usiing some sort of background - so this is how I'll do it and then use a thin black wash for the painting before inserting from the backside of the openings. At least, that's the plan.... :huh:

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Builder's yard:
USS STODDARD (DD-566) 66-68 1:144, USS-LSM/R-194 1:144
Finished:
USS NEW JERSEY (BB-62) 67-69 1:200
USN Sloop/Ship PEACOCK (1813) 1:48
ROYAL CAROLINE (1748) 1:47
AVS (1768) 1:48


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Like the cat door for the ships mascot! Is it still a kit if you replace all the parts?

Looks good Hank!


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Like the cat door for the ships mascot! Is it still a kit if you replace all the parts?
Looks good Hank!


Thanks, Tom!! I can't answer that question - that is for the model bean counters to decide!!

Well, 1st edition of the deckhouse didn't come out so well - the tub walls and deck were too thin -
Attachment:
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Resized_20220823_135634.jpeg [ 123.69 KiB | Viewed 153 times ]

It looks like it took a hit from a Kamakazi Troll :doh_1: However, it did show me that my details printed all very well and there doesn't need to be any correction to those. So, not an entire loss! :thumbs_up_1:
The two replenishment panels likewise did not print well and I was expecting as much. So, more DSM work to do and then try again. My vent stack pipes are printing now and I don't forsee any hitches as they already printed very well, except for length.

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Builder's yard:
USS STODDARD (DD-566) 66-68 1:144, USS-LSM/R-194 1:144
Finished:
USS NEW JERSEY (BB-62) 67-69 1:200
USN Sloop/Ship PEACOCK (1813) 1:48
ROYAL CAROLINE (1748) 1:47
AVS (1768) 1:48


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