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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 5:14 pm 
Hi all,

I post here with some trepidation, considering how skilled forum members are. This thread is certainly going to be the antithesis of the 'masterclass' builds you see on here, and it might give you a laugh...

I have never built a 1/700 ship kit, and never built a full-resin kit. I do however have a fascination with the ironclad and dreadnought era, say 1860s-1918, and especially the drama of the Russo-Japanese war, or in the view of certain historians 'World War 0'.

So I have purchased a Combrig 1st class Cruiser Askold kit, a choice driven mainly by the low cost of the kit and the availability of a dedicated etch sheet from White Ensign models (currently winging its way to me from sunny California- the last time I ordered something from them they were still in the UK...)

I intend this build to be as good a job as is achievable for a rank beginner, and I open this thread for two reasons- firstly, and most selfishly, I am going to need some help and advice as I go along :wave_1: , and secondly, I have really stuggled to find build logs of small-scale ships written by average modellers- so I thought it might be good to show what a committed amateur can achieve 'out of the box'.

It's not all bad news though. I have been a fairly committed modeller of 1/72 aircraft since I was a teenager, and I have experience of rigging 1/72 biplanes and basic scratch building or 'kit bashing' as it seems to be called. I can paint with an airbrush, and possess an extensive set of modelling tools, which in this scale will surely prove to be as wieldy as using a sledgehammer to repair a glass chandelier. Whilst I'm wearing my glasses I can see what I'm doing, and if I haven't had a glass of whiskey in the study, my hands are pretty steady too...

So, here's what we are dealing with...

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Nothing much to happen yet as I am waiting on the etch set.

I hope you all pop by occasionally to offer advice, criticism and encouragement. Think of it as modelling charity- giving something back to someone less fortunate that yourself... :newbie:

Will


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New here myself but will be watching in hopes of picking up some tips myself.

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Welcome to the TRUE dark side of modeling (don't listen to the armor guys, they don't know what they are talking about). Once you build ships, everything else pales in comparison!

Good luck with your build and keep us updated on your progress.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 9:16 am 
Thanks guys,

Not much to see, but I opened the thread early as I am gathering resources.

I have decided to depict Askold after her arrival with the 1st Pacific Squadron, immediately after repainting into the theatre paint scheme. My long years of aircraft modelling teach me that you can't go wrong if you find a photograph of the real thing and work from that.

So, here she is:
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Principal source: http://tsushima.su/RU/shipsru/shipsruss ... koldphoto/

A few interesting things in that picture

1) The olive green paint appears fresh, satin, and quite dark in tone. A very homogenous finish, which I think will be difficult to achieve in scale without looking toy-like!
2) The ship is flying what appears to be an Imperial Russian Viceroy ensign from the mainmast- am I right?

3) Other pictures confirm that all decks seem to be covered in wide rolls of linoleum- about 2m wide, and secured by brass strips running longitudinally. The anchor deck alone was wood-planked.
4) The Imperial crest on the bow (and hence presumably the stern) were not painted over.
5) The bridge is actually open railing covered in canvas windbreaks, not solid bulwark as provided in the Combrig kit.

Any observations welcome. I'm particularly thinking about how to paint the linoneum decks- this is a new one for me! I am certainly not going to be attempting the 2inch brass securing strips in 1/700...

Will


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Welcome to Modelwarships.com with your build Will :welcome:

Askold is a very worthy subject

I the ship built twice (!) back in 1998 and 1999
( in heady pre-internet days when image research was just sooo much harder!

from the 1/700 WEM kit ( which erroneously featured wooden decks...)

encs link to the images ( 35 mm!! )

http://www.modelshipgallery.com/gallery ... index.html


Askold only had wood on the foredeck...

A very useful guide for your model--aside from photos of the real thing- and there are plenty out there...)

is this very fine rendition in 1/350
http://www.modelshipgallery.com/gallery ... index.html

I was told and read somewhere that the the green olive paint I was prone to oxidising fairly quickly-

-especially on the hot funnels ( need verification thereof)

You could if you wish send me an e-mail to jbys@tiscali.co............uk( remove the spare dots)

and I will send you all the infos and photos I have of her

encs a quick snap thru the glass I shot as I type
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JIM BAUMANN wrote:
Welcome to Modelwarships.com with your build Will :welcome:

Askold is a very worthy subject

I the ship built twice (!) back in 1998 and 1999
( in heady pre-internet days when image research was just sooo much harder!

from the 1/700 WEM kit ( which erroneously featured wooden decks...)

encs link to the images ( 35 mm!! )

http://www.modelshipgallery.com/gallery ... index.html


Askold only had wood on the foredeck...

A very useful guide for your model--aside from photos of the real thing- and there are plenty out there...)

is this very fine rendition in 1/350
http://www.modelshipgallery.com/gallery ... index.html

I was told and read somewhere that the the green olive paint I was prone to oxidising fairly quickly-

-especially on the hot funnels ( need verification thereof)

You could if you wish send me an e-mail to jbys@tiscali.co............uk( remove the spare dots)

and I will send you all the infos and photos I have of her

encs a quick snap thru the glass I shot as I type
regards

Jim Baumann


Cheers Jim, I doubt I'll be achieving anything close to those two beautiful models.

Interesting thoughts about the green paint. I suppose given how it was mixed, it would be quite unstable. It surprises me in the photographs of the 1st Squadron just how homogeneous the paint finishes are- and the tone (always difficult to interpret in black and white photos) is actually very consistent between individual ships. They must have had nothing better to do on shore at Port Arthur in late 1903...

Will


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