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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 6:16 pm 
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marijn van gils wrote:
Considering how much attention aircraft modellers put into removing seams, I'm often surprised how little attention ship modellers often place in this aspect.

As both an aircraft and ship modeler, I'm active in, and see, both worlds. In my opinion, aircraft modelers, as a group, are much more precise, demanding, and accomplished than ship modelers. They're simply better modelers when it comes to the fundamentals! Yes, there are some incredibly good ship modelers but, as a generalization, aircraft modelers are better and armor modelers may be the best.

Part of that may be the scale and complexity. The scale of aircraft and armor leaves everything out in the open, plain to see - you'd better be seamless! Also, the far greater complexity (business) of a ship tends to "hide" poor seams and make us lazy. Aircraft are smooth and simple and have nothing to "hide" the seams from the eye - again, when the seams are that obvious and open, you'd better make them invisible!

I'd like to see ship modelers up their standards for basic construction techniques.




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I also build aircrafts and ships...and because I try to put the same attention to a clean construction into the ships as in the aircraft the ships take a lot longer to build. I have a Trumpi 1/350 carrier that so far almost used up half a tube of putty and lots of evergreen stuff. The quality of most ship models is not up to the quality of aircraft kits, not to mention the details. There are exceptions meanwhile...treat yourself with a Dragon Gearing class and be positively surprised!

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 6:26 pm 
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...and to comment the build...absolutely outstanding! And not too run down I would say, I have a picture of such a destroyer somewhere after a long artic cruise...looks even worse! I would love to see you do a WWII Fletcher or even a carrier...

thanks a lot
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 6:30 pm 
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anj4de wrote:
...and to comment the build...absolutely outstanding! And not too run down I would say, I have a picture of such a destroyer somewhere after a long artic cruise...looks even worse! I would love to see you do a WWII Fletcher or even a carrier...

thanks a lot
Uwe


Yessss...we need to get him to do the Revell 1/144 Fletcher, with plenty of aftermarket goodies, of course!

As for me, I've got the Forrest Sherman (DDG-98) version of this kit on order from Amazon (spent a gift card from an uncle), and though I'll be building it OOB, this is quite the example.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 1:09 pm 
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Cheers guys!

Well, to be honest I kinda like these smaller ship projects, as you can go HAM on them and superdetail the **** out of them but the project still won't sucumb you.
Atleast I tend to burn out if it starts to feel too much and you can only see the ship getting finished after years. For some that's okay but I want to get sh*ts done!
I prolly differ from the rest aswell as I don't buy any kits to my stash. I plan my projects in advance and then buy everything I want and go for it.
Yes I do have some unfinished ones but I don't stash them! :big_grin:

Well anyway, everything is moving on fine and dandy, wife took camera away for the weekend so no pics. Close to finishing only thing got me wondering why the Pontos set didn't have the choppers and the RHIBs from veteran like the perry class had?
The kit RHIBs are so out of scale they don't even fit the properly so I won't be using them at all.
I ordered some veteran ones so gonna take some time to get them but I'll finish everything else in the mean time.

So next photo update will be the finished model I bet maybe next weekend maybe the next who knows we'll see!


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 10:42 am 
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Koppalakki wrote:
I prolly differ from the rest aswell as I don't buy any kits to my stash. I plan my projects in advance and then buy everything I want and go for it.


Funny, I'm exactly the same! :big_grin:
I'm pretty sure we're quite exceptional in that way in the modelling world… :cool_2:

The mast looks fantastic by the way! :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:

Cheers,

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 1:24 pm 
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 2:35 pm 
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So didn't recieve the last veteran bits this week so might aswell post some other stuff while waiting! :big_grin:

So I had some time to go through and add more details while waiting.

Various ropes made from wire were added in few places. Painted Tamiya deck tan and brown wash.

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White caps for the nulka launchers.

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Various lights on the aft deck made from random PE stanchions. The light bulb was made from white glue then painted silver and on top of that clear orange.
Then an electric wire added for wiring.

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The arrestor cables for the flight deck netting made from uschi rigging line. Lines were cut and then the other end dabbed into CA and put into place. The other end was then just pushed in toward the edge of the deck.
54 in total.

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Made sure the PE crane base was seamless. One light and a lot of electrical wirings added.

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Also the additional satcoms (???) added on both sides.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 4:08 pm 
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Excellent...and not over done! Have a look at DDG-67 USS Cole...

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 4:23 pm 
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Hello everyone, new to the forum. Just wanted to tell Koppalakki that your work is excellent and an inspiration. I saw your Yamato thread and learned a great deal. I will be posting a small A-86 torpedo boat I'm nearly done with soon, but I just wanted to thank you for taking the time to detail your process. As you are probably aware, it helps us newbies quite a bit to see a master and his techniques. :thumbs_up_1:


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 4:20 am 
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Welcome mate! :cool_1:

And good stuff if we can be of inspiration and help!

One last chopper left and the ship is finished!

So expect a picture filled post this weekend!!!

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:22 am 
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Great details! :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:
A lot of work went into this model…

Looking forward to the chopper, and to the pics of the finished project.
Cheers!

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 11:01 am 
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And I think we're done! :big_grin: :big_grin: :big_grin:

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More pictures here! https://imgur.com/a/iLEh5

All in all I enjoyed the build a lot! Hope you do too!


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 4:47 am 
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We sure enjoyed this build, and learned some tricks too.... Thanks for explaining, and it sure is a very beautiful model... Congrats with this beauty...


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 6:56 am 
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Brilliant. Love it. :big_grin:

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 8:21 am 
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The weathering you've done looks really very convincing to my eyes. Masterful work!


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Also I am baffled, everything is fantastic,workmanship and weathering , top notch , hardly see a finer example , my compliments truly an amazing work,thank You for sharing your build.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 11:00 am 
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Breathtaking!

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 11:35 am 
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Absolutely marvelous work and a very good reason to no longer say that modern ships are boring :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:


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Great work my friend! :woo_hoo:


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:10 pm 
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Another impressive model from you! Thanks for posting; I really enjoyed watching each progress! :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:

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