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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 3:06 am 
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Many thanks Rui, Nicolas and Alain! :smallsmile: :wave_1:

After an inactive summer, I finally picked up this project again.
With Evergreen V-groove plastic sheet, I made the lower gun deck and firmly glued it in place. I extended the hull below the waterline a bit with plastic sheet and magic sculp to provide some extra room for water transparency and waves.
Since the decks widen at the stern, and they need an ‘outside wall’ to the quarter galleries at each level, I decided to make them separately at the stern from the rest of the decks. The stern part of the middle deck was made this way, and also firmly glued in position. I filled the space below with magic sculp for strength, and to fill the hole in the lower stern I accidentally drilled earlier.
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Now it was just a matter of adding each deck. From this point on, all decks are kept detachable for painting, installing guns and crew, etc.
The rest of the middle gun deck needed to be added in two parts, because of the ship’s tumblehome. Here, the port section was added. The supports below it are glued to this deck section.
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And the starboard section in )place. The supports for the upper gun deck above it were glued to this section.
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The starboard upper deck section at the stern was now fitted (positioned a bit crooked in this photo).
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And the port section. On the lower face of these stern sections, the continuation of the hull (the wall between the stern galleries and the cabins) is attached.
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The port upper deck section.
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And the starboard section. Openings for hatches, gratings and masts will be cut in this later (as will holes for the masts in the decks below).
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The port quarterdeck section at the stern.
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And the starboard section.
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The rest of the quarterdeck, gangways and forecastle could be fashioned as one piece, since the tumblehome doesn’t interfere anymore at this point.
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And finally: the poop deck.
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Slowly, it is starting to look like a ship… :)
Most of the weather decks are provided in the kit in white metal and are not bad. But redoing these in plastic makes it easier for me to add camber (missing from the kit pieces), and gluing finer details to them later. It also keeps the weight down! :)
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A better view on the deck sections at the stern. They are four detacheable pieces: two decks split in the centre. The ‘outer walls’ are glued to their lower face, as are the central supports.
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As you can see, ‘below decks’ everything is not super precise, and I didn’t even attempt to add the correct interior structures, because this will not remain visible. These decks will only serve to support the guns and crew, and simply give the feeling that there is something in there.

Now it’s time to cut some holes and add some details to the upper decks! :smallsmile:

Cheers,

Marijn


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 4:05 am 
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Most Excellent. :thumbs_up_1:

I've been waiting for your update with great anticipation. :big_grin:


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 6:52 am 
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Outstanding craftsmanship, as always.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 7:10 am 
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And so it begins...

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Good solutions to thedeck / tumblehome issue !

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More soon I trust!

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 12:33 pm 
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Many thanks everyone!!! :smallsmile: :cool_2:

JIM BAUMANN wrote:
More soon I trust!


I hope so... :smallsmile:


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2018 6:59 am 
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Hello everyone,

Meanwhile, the decks are mostly detailed.
I first drilled the holes for the masts (they go all the way into the lower gun deck), then added details to the visible decks. These are not the masts I will use, but just some plastic rod of the correct diameter to assist in getting the holes for the masts right.

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The forecastle. I used WEM 1/144 gratings, as they are the correct size.
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The kit parts for comparison, with oversized gratings. The detail of the white metal parts is not bad for the scale, but a bit clunky when you place a scale figure next to them, so I replaced them with scratchbuilt parts.
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The railing on top of the beakhead bulkhead is a good example of improvement over the kit parts.
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The railings aft of the forecastle are also much finer now. The kits’ bell house was too small. I did use the bell itself, but even though I cut it down by 50%, I think it is still a bit too big… The lower part of the kit chimney was too thin.
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Following the sketches by Turner of Victory after the battle, and the opinion of our leading Victory-expert Dafi :big_grin: , I added solid barricades to the forecastle. I couldn’t see Dafi’s photo’s anymore, so I made my own interpretation of another model of victory and plans of similar ships.
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The waist. The upper gun deck received gratings too. I still need to build the ladders. At the top left of the photo: note the repaired edge of quarterdeck barricade I had damaged earlier.
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The railings aft of the waist. Note how the kit decks and details don’t have any camber in them. Doing the decks from scratch gives a much better feel to the model in this respect.
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The poop deck. I used the PE skylight from the kit, already adding battle damage before assembling building it. The flag lockers at the stern are modified from the kit parts. The barricades are only attached with Blue Tack. They are quite fragile in this position, and I managed to break a previous version, so I will only attach them when the hammock nettings filled with hammocks are ready to attach to them.
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The railing at the front of the poop. I again followed Turner (and Dafi) in placing the walkways at the same level as the poop deck, not stepping down lower as the ship is now. Ladders still need to be built, as does the damaged ships wheel.
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And a final shot to show the scale!
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Any comments are welcome, especially from the Victory experts amongst you!

Cheers,

Marijn


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2018 8:23 am 
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World class.

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Astounding work, as always. Adrian sent me a video from SMC, of you assembling the components. Such precise construction.

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MY GOSHHH Marijin

an incredible job :woo_hoo: :woo_hoo: no era and type of model will resists you…
I repeat myself , for me , you are an one of the best model maker in the world :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:
are you present at Telford the next weekend ?
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Absolutely smashing, old bean!

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2018 8:28 pm 
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Awesome work! And that looks like one huuge matchstick. :heh:

Question though. The PE 'deck house' on the stern looks like it's taken a canon ball or two..?


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2018 4:56 am 
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Many thanks everyone for your kind words! :smallsmile: :cool_1: :smallsmile:

LE BOSCO wrote:
are you present at Telford the next weekend ?

Unfortunately not Nicolas. With 3 children at home, there is a limit to my weekends away from home, and I already went to Moson in Hungary and Veldhoven (SMC) this year. It is a pity, because I would have loved to see your Richelieu in the flesh there!
Hopefully next year?

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The PE 'deck house' on the stern looks like it's taken a canon ball or two..?

Glad it looks like that! :big_grin:
Because I am modelling her in the heat of the battle of Trafalgar.
The rest of the battle damage will be added later, but it was easier to do it to these PE pieces before gluing them together.

Cheers!

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Did not have a chance to follow too much, but it a treat to see your work!

Very nice especially in that scale! As usual in your builds, better detailed than many larger scaleed models!!!

XXXDAn

PS Love the "... and the opinion of our leading Victory-expert Dafi :big_grin:"


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marijn van gils wrote:
And a final shot to show the scale!
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STOP DOING THAT! You are being depressing!


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Wonderfull work Marjin! :thumbs_up_1:

Do you use this matches? :big_grin: :big_grin:
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Hi Marijn,

this is usually not an era I would be interested in... but seeing your work just might change my mind!

This is absolutely fantastic! Very inspiring! :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:

Cheers!
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 6:31 am 
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Many thanks guys! :smallsmile: :wave_1: :smallsmile:

And: I just put my stuff out there; whether you find it inspiring or demotivating is entirely up to you! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :big_grin: :big_grin:

Cheers,

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Good to see the built-up bulwarks. Amazing work so far; very easy to forget how small this is (thanks to your very crisp photos!)

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Talking about HMS VICTORY in 1/300: I recently had the opportunity to admire the model by a japanese colleague, Etsuro Tsuboi:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6tkJLrPbZUET0hGR1E2U3J0cTg/view

and

https://www.segelschiffsmodellbau.com/t7021f93-Internationale-Modellbauausstellung-in-Rochefort-die-Modelle.html#msg154235

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