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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 4:17 am 
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Started on 1/700 Gato class. I quite like the boat and wanted to make a super detailed version in 1/700.

Will it be Gato, Barb, Silversides - I cant tell yet. I havent decided. What I have gone for is an early fit in all black, as I much prefer the look of it in this setup.

The kit is simple, has few parts but lends a lot to improve which is the fun part.

I am using Tom's modelworks PE set for Gato to dress it up.

here they all are:

EDIT: Completed build. Most of finished pics are below.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 4:21 am 
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So the first thing that jumped at me were how poorly done the whole rear section was, rudders ok, I wont touch, just make a scribe for the actual rudder area but the props... oh dear, two little crosses?

So - Toms model works provides nice little screws I can use but frankly speaking the whole area is a mess. So I decided to fit some plastic tubing, drill holes in them, and then stick some brass rods for shafts, and then cap the ends with plastic tubes again (pre drilled) and follow it up with some struts from precut styrene.

Here is the result, I think it looks a bit smarter now... Still need to figure out how to do the tips of the screws, any ... tips? :heh:

PS: to anyone trying to do this mod, I suggestion to first fit the guides - supports for the screws near the rudder, and THEN attach the shafts. I think that will ensure a better fit. I saw online one guy use metal tubes and piano wires to set them, but I dont think it is the best way also. using plastic tubing to attach into the hull you let yourself some wiggle room with normal glue. Much easier. In fact, I screwed up my end by following that guides order of assembly and my props are not super straight now. But - if you do the supports first, it is much simpler to then rest the shafts against them at the exact angle. Actual process is much simpler and I can do it again next time - after all Toms Modelworks contains PE for 2 boats, so a Balao is on the cards, potentially...


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USS Washington, Atlantic 1942
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Another area that is problematic, shall we say, is the bow area.

The anchors look pathetic - bow and stern ones dont really match, the bow planes supports are missing (understandable though in this scale) and the flood holes are not drilled out. So that bit I took care of in the next photo.

Not visible in this photo but I also drilled out the towing hole, bullnose or whatever it is called, sorry not good with sub terminology yet! The bow looks proper now!


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USS Washington, Atlantic 1942
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Last bit to address is the superstructure. Not much to add here - just a PE ladder, railings, and a bell made out of spare outrigger and bit of glue on it for volume. It will do.

I realized that I drilled one hole too many (or rather, HB puts 8 holes on the front of the sail, 4 on each side - that is wrong, there were 7, and they were I think bigger and 1 was in center, three on sides, plus a life preserver ring after that). So I will have to correct this further...

To be continued.

Next phase is railings, masts, and decision whether to add prop guards or not... I heard that one is a bit of tricky one.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 5:56 am 
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Main PE bits have been added. While probably not 100% accurate this is best I can do in this scale with PE I have. :)

On lower pic you can see the work done on the prop guards (early style, as I gathered, hope I got this right but I had zero clarity on it based on instructions from PE set). Toms Modelworks just writes "see reference pics for detail" which is often not good enough.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 5:59 am 
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Here the boat is Primed and then Painted!

She looks way better in all black now. :) As you see I shaved off most of the hull plating which was super exaggerated.

Final touches ahead - black pin wash, dry brushing, wash the lower hull in gray-green, and add rust and salt streaks here and there. Rigging will be last, hope to be done with this one soon.


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:thumbs_up_1: Very nice result! I like your eye for details. And that on 1/700... my admiration!

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Looks good. Eager to see your weathering.


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Harpy wrote:
Looks good. Eager to see your weathering.



:thumbs_up_1: ask and you shall receive!

The project is done. Did a lot of weathering and then post that have sprayed the boat with mist of black paint heavily diluted. It nicely tied everything together I think.

Much better pics to come, this is just iphone.


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USS Washington, Atlantic 1942
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2019 9:32 am 
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The project is complete.

It is a nice little kit but for sure could use a lot of improvements on the tail section. Were I to build a Balao which is the same kit basically, I would full rebuild the props, shafts, and rudders too.

I much prefer the all black paint scheme of the early Gato's, which was tricky to depict. I have painted it all Nato black (Tamiya XF69), then I give it a green-gray wash on the lower hull, and brown-black wash on the upper hull. After this I added a bit of a muck line, and all the rust and streaks on the upper hull.

Next I've used XF69 diluted 9:1 with thinner and sprayed it in parts on the hull to town down the sharp effect those streaks had. I think if you manage smoothly the weathering there is no need for it, but I had to do it. As a result the sub looks rather nice and stealthy, and for sure more to scale.

Antennas are based on 0.2mm brass wire rods and modelkasten 0.06mm tungsten wire. Insulators are made using the KristalKlear shiny glue thing, which is used to make windows usually. I might dull it down later but overall it will do.

Final touch is the life ring on the sail. Some boats had it, some didn't, it was white or red. I made mine white and stuck it using kristal clear, so I can take it off with water if needed.

Here is the result, final, next to a Type 9C Uboat (Gato is BIG), and next to some Battleships (Gato is SMALL) and to a destroyer (Gato is SAME). :D


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HMS Hood, 1941
HIJMS Mikasa, 1902
USS Washington, Atlantic 1942
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2019 12:35 pm 
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It is a beautiful piece of work. It definitely turned out alright.

I've been silently admiring your rapidly expanding and improving fleet of ships.

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pascalemod wrote:
Last bit to address is the superstructure. Not much to add here - just a PE ladder, railings, and a bell made out of spare outrigger and bit of glue on it for volume. It will do.

I realized that I drilled one hole too many (or rather, HB puts 8 holes on the front of the sail, 4 on each side - that is wrong, there were 7, and they were I think bigger and 1 was in center, three on sides, plus a life preserver ring after that). So I will have to correct this further...



Beautiful job with the drill and fantastic work on the shafts too. I saw a photo of your kit before and I was sure it was 1/350.
Excellent PE work too. With that small a kit I would be sure to bend the rails accidentally. I now have a terrific example to follow for my 3 HB Gato kits.

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Very nice. The weathering turn out good.


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Thabk you guys!

Moderators please moce the thread to completed builds!

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HMS Hood, 1941
HIJMS Mikasa, 1902
USS Washington, Atlantic 1942


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