The Ship Model Forum

The Ship Modelers Source
It is currently Mon May 05, 2025 4:49 pm

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 380 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13 ... 19  Next
Author Message
PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 6:10 am 
Offline

Joined: Tue Sep 17, 2013 12:16 pm
Posts: 356
Hi Marijn,

The Wildcats on the flight deck and elevator have the clear plastic canopy "reduced", not completely removed. Then filled up with clear. The ones not really visible (in the hangar deck) just have the PE over the clear part, glued with kristal klear (31 of them, I am still thinking why I did that...). The B-25's canopies are painted decal film, cut in very thin strips and placed with a lot of decal solvent over the clear parts (that were masked off before). The real B-25 canopies are a lot more complex than my implementation, but oh well...

On the next one, I will completely remove the canopy, and try your tip with the burr for the cockpit tubs. It looks great!

Have you decided on the water technique? I would like to know your opinion.

Can't wait to see all the figures on the Lexington! :wave_1:

_________________
CV-8: http://www.shipmodels.info/mws_forum/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=153851
DD-436: http://www.shipmodels.info/mws_forum/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=157123
CVL-24 http://www.shipmodels.info/mws_forum/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=158455


Report this post
Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2014 7:34 am 
Offline

Joined: Tue Feb 06, 2007 10:24 am
Posts: 2567
Location: Belgium
Thanks for the info Hypno7!

Hollowing out with the burr proved quite effective for the planes with open canopies. It is not necessary to hollow it out all the way, just enough to get the feeling of a hollow cockpit, and to get thin fuselage edges. For the closed ones probably just cutting away the plastic canopies without hollowing the body would look pretty much the same, so probably I could have saved some effort there...
Hollowing with the burr didn't take a lot of time, but I did slip a couple of times with the burr, so I had to fill some gaps after gluing the canopies (I used Magic Sculp).

For the water, I am going with Jim Bauman's technique of watercolour paper, but with some more waves like Werner Dekeersmaeker does it, but with smaller and more regular waves. It is still the best I have seen! I did some tests with different ways of using acrylic gel, but couldn't get a satisfactory result.
Are you thinking of doing a waterline model next? :)

And I'm also looking forward to gluing all those figures on Lexington! I had hoped to be doing that by now, but the planes are taking much, much more time than I guessed. But no problem, since I am still enjoying my time with them!

Cheers,

Marijn


Report this post
Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 10:27 am 
Offline

Joined: Tue Feb 06, 2007 10:24 am
Posts: 2567
Location: Belgium
After a filter and lining the details:

Image

Image

Image

Image

Image

Image

And for anyone not too familiar with 1/700 scale: this is the actual size (I held it in front of the screen for sizing, but I have to admit they do look a bit larger in the flesh):
Image

This will be the main weathering (well, still have to do 10 F4F's before this step is actually finished…). After that, only some retouches (tail decals), detail painting (propellers, F4F undercarriage, machineguns, wingfold area's, …), glazing, installing the folded wings on the TBD's, and installing the antennas, is left to be done. Mmm, I guess I better get back to work! :)

Cheers,

Marijn


Report this post
Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 10:46 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Nov 11, 2013 11:01 pm
Posts: 1257
Location: Detroit area
:worship_1:

_________________
Sean Nash, ACG (aircraft camo gestapo)

On the ways:
1/200 Trumpeter HMS Nelson
1/700 Tamiya USS Yorktown CV-5

In the stash:
1/35 Italiari PT-109
1/35 Tamiya "Pibber" Patrol Boat
1/350 Trumpeter USS Yorktown CV-10


Report this post
Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 8:40 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun Feb 01, 2009 3:55 pm
Posts: 3125
Location: Hawaii
Those are 1/700 planes???!!!

:worship_1: :worship_1: :worship_1:

_________________
Drawing Board:
1/700 Whiff USS Leyte and escorts 1984
1/700 Whiff USN Modernized CAs 1984
1/700 Whiff ASW Showdown - FFs vs SSGN 1984

Slipway:
1/700 Whiff USN ASW Hunter Killer Group Dio 1984


Report this post
Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2014 2:09 am 
Offline

Joined: Tue Jul 08, 2014 1:34 pm
Posts: 22
Location: near Hamburg, Germany
Hi Marijn, these planes are really breathtaking.
I never saw a work like this.....it's outstanding.
:worship_1: :worship_1:


Report this post
Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2014 2:50 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Oct 06, 2012 4:34 pm
Posts: 967
Location: Cologne / Germany, sometimes Poznan/ Poland and Chessington/ UK
And I thought these 1/350 planes here and there of some people are the limit to impress me and more goes not. Wrong! These are 1/700 and I'm more as impressed ... I'm speakless of such a quality!
And then the Lexington itsellf ... awesome!

:thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:

_________________
The advantage of wisdom is that you can play dumb; conversely, it is more difficult.


Report this post
Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2014 3:17 am 
Offline

Joined: Tue Feb 06, 2007 10:24 am
Posts: 2567
Location: Belgium
Many thanks guys! You are making me blush... :)

I do like to work in tiny detail, and I have years of experience with armour diorama's and figures, which does help, especially with the paintwork. And I did see some planes (WWI biplane seaplanes in 1/1000 scale) at Telford which motivated me to put in the necessary hours to get a result at least close to it (surely not as refined as those, but I have many more to to)! :)

They are not completely finished yet, but slowly getting there...

Cheers,

Marijn


Report this post
Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2014 5:25 am 
Offline

Joined: Sun Aug 15, 2010 6:19 pm
Posts: 708
Location: Seattle Area
I know anything is possible...


But detail should literally not be possible...:o

But since we're crossing that boundary, might as well have the pilots drink coffee or read the newspaper ;)

_________________
"Also we will never see a 1/350 late war Enterprise from Dragon due to a paralyzing fear of success...." - Heavy Melder

Lots of unfinished model ships + attention issues = A busy slipway where nothing gets done!


Report this post
Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2014 8:18 am 
Offline

Joined: Tue Sep 17, 2013 12:16 pm
Posts: 356
That looks incredible! the darkening of the edges of the frames looks fantastic! The wash (is it a wash?) make the cockpit tubs look deeper. The way you manage the contrasts looks very nice.

That SBD missing half a wing... is that the one that will be floating up side down besides Lexington?

_________________
CV-8: http://www.shipmodels.info/mws_forum/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=153851
DD-436: http://www.shipmodels.info/mws_forum/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=157123
CVL-24 http://www.shipmodels.info/mws_forum/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=158455


Report this post
Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2014 8:40 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun Jul 11, 2010 6:52 am
Posts: 356
Location: Galicia (Spain)
Hi Marijn,

I can not say anything else. It's a great job. I also work at 1/700 and I know the great difficulty that. Just a question, do you use Optivisors or magnifiers?
Greetings. Great job.

_________________
On workbench:
Uss Missouri 1/350 Tamiya
Russian SSBN Borei Class - K-550 Alexander Nevskiy




My Galery:
http://www.modelshipgallery.com/gallery ... index.html
Instagram: Tamboshipsmodels


Report this post
Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2014 12:03 pm 
Offline

Joined: Tue Feb 06, 2007 10:24 am
Posts: 2567
Location: Belgium
Many thanks guys!

JTninja wrote:
But since we're crossing that boundary, might as well have the pilots drink coffee or read the newspaper ;)


I'll give it a try! :)

hypno7 wrote:
the darkening of the edges of the frames looks fantastic! The wash (is it a wash?) make the cockpit tubs look deeper. The way you manage the contrasts looks very nice.


Thanks! That was a very useful tip from Jim indeed! I did it with paint though instead of pencil (I have more control over a brush than a pencil, and this way it doesn't need a flatcoat anymore), but not a wash. I used Humbrol black with a bit of raw umber oil paint, thinned a bit with white spirit but still quite opaque. I put it on a fine brush, making sure that not too much paint is on the brush (it shouldn't flow from the brush), then put the tip of the brush in a window opening, and moved the brush gently against the sides of the frame to get dark paint on the edges, and repeated this for every single window opening. It sounds like a lot of work, but it went quite quickly.
I didn't apply a wash anymore to the cockpit tubs, they already appear deep enough to my eye, and a wash would make the green color much less visible. Since they are tiny area's, I want them to still be sufficiently visible amidst the entire diorama.

hypno7 wrote:
That SBD missing half a wing... is that the one that will be floating up side down besides Lexington?


Yep! It is also missing most of it's topside, which I sanded away. Now I'm not sure if that was a very clever move though… :)

Kometa wrote:
Just a question, do you use Optivisors or magnifiers?


Thanks! No, my eyesight is pretty good, at least for close-up. When my eye side goes down in the (hopefully far) future, I will start to use an optivisor, but at the moment I don't need it.

Cheers,

Marijn


Report this post
Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2014 2:27 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun Jul 19, 2009 10:33 am
Posts: 381
Location: Yorkshire, Great Britain
The detail in 1/700 is amazing, and to do it without any magnification is astonishing, you must have eyes like a hawks.
Regards
Richard :thumbs_up_1:

_________________
SI VIS PACEM,
PARA BELLUM


Report this post
Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Thu Dec 25, 2014 5:45 am 
Offline

Joined: Tue Feb 06, 2007 10:24 am
Posts: 2567
Location: Belgium
Many thanks Richard!

I think I'm lucky with my eyesight indeed, at least for closeby as I'm quite nearsighted... :)

Meanwhile, I found the trick with the Kristal Clear Works! I simply applied it window by window with a fine tipped brush, and after drying cleaned up excessive gloss on the edges with a bit of matte varnish.
I have also attached the wings of the TBD's and painted some extra details: propelors, machineguns, F4F undercarriages, simulating detail on the wing split area's of the TBD's, and retouches where I couldn't make the tail stripes match up properly.
The Kristal Clear Windows may look a bit crude in these very much magnified photo's, but I'm happy with how they look in the flesh. If your not too familiar with 1/700, just take a match and hold it next to the match-head in the photo's. :)

SBD with closed canopy. I also added a White line on the tail.
Image

And with open canopy:
Image

Image

Wildcat with closed canopy. The Starfighter decals are very nice, but I couldn't fit the red-and-white tail stripes to the bottom of the tail. Therefore, I cut the bottom from every decal for all the wildcats, and now painted those bottom 3 stripes. I also had to "join" the stripes from both sides with paint at the back and top of the tail on most aircraft.

Image

I like a lot how the Flyhawk PE undercarriage mimics the wildcats actual style of undercarriage instead of just providing two simple separate wheels like most sets:

Image

And with open canopy. This one is to be blown on its' nose by an explosion, hence the bent propellor blades and heavy weathering.
Image

TBD with only one wing folded and open canopy:
Image

Image

And finally a TBD with both wings folded and closed canopy:

Image

Cheers,

Marijn


Report this post
Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Thu Dec 25, 2014 6:21 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:13 am
Posts: 951
Location: Ludwigsburg/Germany
Hello Marijin,

I remember that the old 1:72 Airfix-Devastator was my second aeroplane when I was 12 ...

... and the trouble I had because of all the tiny parts ...

...

... and now this :-)

Amazing like the rest of the work you show here!

Cheers, Daniel

_________________
To Victory and beyond ...
viewtopic.php?f=59&t=99050&start=60

See also our german forum for the age of Sail and History:
http://www.segelschiffsmodellbau.com


Report this post
Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2014 2:27 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun Oct 12, 2008 3:55 am
Posts: 613
Location: Budapest, Hungary
This is just fantastic!
One of the best detail work and painting I have ever seen.
I am mightily impressed!

Congrats,

George Pék


Report this post
Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2014 3:11 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Nov 11, 2013 11:01 pm
Posts: 1257
Location: Detroit area
That is bloody incredible work mate! :woo_hoo:

_________________
Sean Nash, ACG (aircraft camo gestapo)

On the ways:
1/200 Trumpeter HMS Nelson
1/700 Tamiya USS Yorktown CV-5

In the stash:
1/35 Italiari PT-109
1/35 Tamiya "Pibber" Patrol Boat
1/350 Trumpeter USS Yorktown CV-10


Report this post
Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2014 3:51 am 
Offline

Joined: Tue Feb 06, 2007 10:24 am
Posts: 2567
Location: Belgium
Many thanks guys!

George, coming from you, that's a very big compliment! :)
I've been a fan of your work for some time.

Cheers,

Marijn


Report this post
Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Sat Dec 27, 2014 1:24 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Mar 30, 2011 9:38 am
Posts: 1381
Holy :censored_2: balls!!!! I am again floored.

_________________
Gabriel


Report this post
Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Sun Dec 28, 2014 3:43 pm 
Offline

Joined: Tue Sep 17, 2013 12:16 pm
Posts: 356
The glazing looks very good! all over, the planes are incredible, even the folding wing detail is there... incredible!

_________________
CV-8: http://www.shipmodels.info/mws_forum/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=153851
DD-436: http://www.shipmodels.info/mws_forum/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=157123
CVL-24 http://www.shipmodels.info/mws_forum/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=158455


Report this post
Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 380 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13 ... 19  Next

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Devin, mconnelley, scottj and 42 guests


You can post new topics in this forum
You can reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group