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Hello Jim, the great thing - it was not an official show, it was "just" a privet gathering of modelers from Germany´s south
Mostly organised through our forum Segelschiffsmodellbau.com , there were at the end members of four forums/clubs plus some "freelancers", making in the end 60 people and 20 models not counting the cardboard ones (too numerous to count)

Hy Olaf, know the site quite well, good ideas, sometimes a bit too overaeger in the way of discussion for my personal taste. Fact wise I have some doubts, as my personal believe is, that the side entry port was not present at Trafalgar, for the same reasons he gives - it is not visible at contemporary plans, drawings and paintings of any three decker of that period - they disappeared by about 1760 and were reintroduced just around 1805 to 1815. So guessing is largely allowed and I took the chance to not omit such a wonderful detail

Hy Bill, thank you, you are doing a great job too!

Cheers, Daniel

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... only wanted to do a cast from the figure head ...



... but after taking down the form, I was wondering about the itzy-bitzy-teeny-weeny letters in the casting form ...

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... grrrrrrr...

XXXDAn

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Finally!!!

Found time for my sweety

First some hanging trials for the anchor ...



... just to realised that it is the point and not the fluke resting in the shoe.

Then finally some rigging

*enjoy*

Prepared some deadeyes this time not using toothpicks but using thin battens from the draw plate ...



... drilled and painted. Tried something new for the rigging procedure ...



... a round stick with the external diameter of the deadeye with a slot ...



... 4 times round and secured, taking down the ring ...



... and forced over the deadeye.



Then prepared a new template ...



... stuck the deadeye into the hole and clamped it ...



... and made the two seizings.

And what for ?!? Simply for that the last shroud does look good beside topgallant backstay, shifting backstay and royal backstay



And this is how it looks ...





Cheers, Daniel

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That really shows how big deadeyes really are! I was astonished, when I had seen the ones on Victory!

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After some lenghty but fruitful discussion in our german forum about the orientaion of the free end left or right, forth or aft we found that almost all literature shows it the way that it is displayed: Starboard pointing foreward, larboard aft

The only one showing it vica versa is Marquardt in his Eighteenth Century Rigs and Rigging, funnily, his Schoner in Nord und Süd shows it the "common" way.

Some other information coming the way was incorporated immediately
- Max. distance of the big deadeyes twice diameter
- Tackle about half the diameter of the shroud
- Shroud not too tight around the deadeye
- free end of the tackle passes through the gap of deadeye and shroud
- free end shorter

And here we go Mark 2:

before:


After


Still have to clear and belay the tackles to look less messy

XXXDAn

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Hello Dan

A Work always impressive quality and a historical accuracy at the tip
I'm still a fan
cheers
nicolas

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Thank you Bosco!

Slowly but steadily: it is getting tighter up there



And please enjoy the exquisite collection of clamps ...



XXXDAn

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Here coms the good night goody ...

... changed the orientation of the z-twist-ropes, used the heavy tools to fiddle the bits as ship shape as possible ...



... got happy about the results ...



... and my favorite picture of the day



XXXDAn

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And off we go ...



... trying ratlines in different sizes and colors.



Seen by scale, the one in the middle it should be. But done out of 2 x Caenis 20/0 it is a bit too stiff for the job and only available in deepest black.

Underneath for comparison my usual 4-thread- 8/0 yarn, good to mix color and great to put in form, but too thick for my taste.
The two lines on top are 2-thread-8/0and fits much better size wise, ok to fit but more restricted color wise.

Still having the old discussion in my ear about the tarred ratlines, I believe most of them are either to dark or too light, I would personally expect in this case a much lighter brown from the stockholm tar. Already my shrouds have a dark brown touch for that reason, the lines should be more light.

So still have to try a bit to get the right tan ...

Cheers, Daniel

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Hello Daniel

your procject is really a titanic work
keep the way ,it is superb
cheers
Nicolas

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Thank you Nicolas!

Continued my small bric-brac and made 2 more colour trials on the top ...



... finally was able to use my new clamps ...



... and finished the first two big dead eyes.



Ship shape und Bristol fashion enough for the scale?

Cheers, Daniel

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HI Dan

I like your "small bric-brac " always small détails "who kill"
bravo
Nicolas

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There is the easy road and there is dafi`s way ...

... could have adjusted the clamps so easily before putting the shrouds in place ...

... so had to fiddle the eleven clamps in on the display ...

... to make it sufficiently hard, I too replaced the first two ones by the smaller size ...



... easy way - kiddies way ...

... I´m no kiddy!

XXXDAn

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Today we have fathers day in Germany. This means, all man and fathers (the ones to be included) take a small hay cart and 3 dozen bottles of beer (for each person) and stroll off into the wild to get comfortably numb.

I love fathers day

And this year dafi alone at home, so I take my small hay cart and stroll with my 3 dozen bottles of beer from one room of the flat into the next.

That´s why I love fathers day

Also I claimed my fathers day present: A hair clamp that I shortened so it is less heavy and less lever action is taking it´s toll.



The foremost shroud is served but unlike the Vic in P. the serving stops atop the deadeye so it fits better the literature.



The clamps are fixed with a drop of CA and then bound with fly fishing yarn.



And here I have a small stage win





Cheers, Daniel

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Dan
luckily that German beer is not too strong the same thing with the Belgian trappist beer or with that of northern France ...... this is another story
what patience to do all these nodes
cheers
nicolas

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And once things move ...

... keep things moving

Set up both second backstays ...



... now just missing the breast backstay.



And holy Impatience, wanted to see the anchors in place ...



... the lead is thrown ...



... and *enjoy*



XXXDAn

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Old chaps never change ...

... already looking a long time at the gunport lid lanyards ...

... usually I tend to do the details a tad smaller than a tad too big ...

... but this time it was just a little bit toooooooo much under dimensioned, as I took the thinnest yarn ...

... first looking already much toooooo thin and then on top I got a big blop on the ring as it is too thin to do a decent splice ...

... and here we have mark 1 on the right and the new mark 2 on the left ...



... already looking better.



Just eleven more to replace ...



XXXDAn

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Halleluljah, got my delivery with the overworked plate of the eyebolts and hooks.



Here the smallest ones. Left the old ones and right the new version, shorter this giving a bit more place on the carriages and also bigger holes that improves the hooking together, more comfortably on restricted spaces
Also the clamps are now fitted with a foot, so they can be bound onto the shrouds as already to be seen on my model.

And as bonus, there are some more pieces now on the plate - altogether more than 3,100 pieces!

http://www.dafinismus.de/plates_en.html#anker

And here the whole collection
http://www.dafinismus.de/plates_en.html

Cheers, Daniel

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It started with the unhappiness about a ball of glue ...



... but also the 2 cored 0,15 mm lanyard appeared too thin, was too unstable and did not allow a decent splice without breaking the material.

The new 4 cored 0,2 mm looks much better and is easy to splice. That is why I went down the road again ...

... this was already shown, a blackend wire around a needel and cut open for the rings.



To fix the rings I used two pointed pliers (less carpetmonster-danger than tweezers!) opened the ring and in the same go - without letting go - hooked into the eyebolt and closed it.



Now I continued differently: Pierced the 4 cored lanyard with a sharpened needle ...



... pushed the needle through down to the eye, put the short end through the ring on the eyebolt ...



... and then through the eye and pulled it through. Took the thread out of the needle to be more free, pierced the lanyard from the other side, pushed the needle in down to the eye, introduced the free end ...



... and pulled again and the splice is done.



Secured with a drop of glue, cut neatly and things are done.



After taking down the old lanyards I realised that the old tube was stuck with glue and junk, inner Diameter smaller than 3 mm, but my smallest drill 3 mm and did not fit.



So I sanded a square point onto the drill which worked marvelously on the tiny tubes

And things looked much less messy than before



Some touch-ups on the paint will follow with time.

XXXDAn

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So, the good news first ...

... all the lanyards replaced

While doing this I felt a bit observed untill I remembered a long forgotten detail



XXXDAn

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