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PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2017 1:49 am 
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Hi everyone,

I’m sure you’ve wished that some company would issue a 691-class LCI in 1/160th scale for a long time. OK, so maybe I’m overstating that. I started this project a couple years ago and recently, things have calmed down and I’ve been able to return to working on it along with other projects.

Why a 691-class LCI? There probably isn’t much chance that a company will issue a 1/160th scale LCI-691 ship anytime soon. However, as you know from my other posts, I thoroughly enjoy chopping up the old Lindberg LCI kit. As you might have seen in my threads on the LCI-30 and the waterlined LCI, there is no ignoring the incorrect bow contours on the Lindberg kit, so why not chop the whole thing off and make the model a 691 class ship?

The preceding LCI classes, the LCI(L)-1 and LCI(L)-351 classes, had side ramps. The 691 class had centerline bow doors and bow ramp instead. That makes this kit bash a bit more challenging.

In the coming posts, I’ll show you how I’ve turned the Lindberg kit into a 691-class LCI. Along the way, you’ll see that I’ve applied much of the same approach to the kit that I did previously with the LCI-30 and the waterlined LCI.

Thank you for checking in!

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PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2017 1:21 pm 
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Hi everyone,

Today, I’ll show you how I began the conversion.

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File comment: Modification of the bow began with cutting off the sponsons.
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File comment: Next, I removed the bow, but left a portion of the upper hull that would attach to the new bow.
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File comment: Like my other LCI projects, I modified the hull so as to more closely capture the trapezoidal shape of the fantail.
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File comment: Here, the hull halves are joined together, using some of the removed hull scraps as reinforcement. I removed the forward deck as well.
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File comment: The hull is just about ready to be mated to the new bow.
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PostPosted: Tue May 30, 2017 6:46 pm 
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Hi everyone,

Today, I’ll show you the installation of the new bow.
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File comment: The bow framework is in place. The focsle deck is also .060 inch styrene.
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File comment: The forward deck of .060 inch styrene is installed and trimmed.
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File comment: Starting to install sheet styrene on the bow. The little bit of a gap along the forward end of the port side deck is due to my excessive enthusiasm while cutting away the styrene on the forward hull. It's nothing a little styrene and green putty won't fix!
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At this point, I began installing the bow styrene. I’ll show you that next time when I tell you “The Tale of the Flying LCI.” :heh:

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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2017 6:52 pm 
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Hi everyone,

As I mentioned in the opening post, I started on this kit a couple years ago. At the time, I was working in Yokosuka, Japan for about a month. My employer had paid for a hotel and I’d brought this kit along for something to do in my off time to keep out of trouble. This brings me to recall The Tale of the Flying LCI.

Working on a model in a hotel requires extra precautions. Modelling materials can get messy and fumes from glue can build up. To keep the air clear in the room, I would open the window anywhere from a few inches to wide open.

My room was on the 8th floor and although Yokosuka always seemed to be windy, the wind on the 8th floor was extremely strong. The wind didn’t blow into the window, though. Instead, the wind would blow across the window, whipping the curtains, occasionally violently sucking them out and blowing them directly back in.

One night, after installing styrene on the sides of the hull side panels on the bow, I decided to take a break and let the room air out after using a lot of glue. In an effort to quickly dissipate the fumes, I’d placed the LCI on the window sill. That particular night, the wind was especially strong and gusty. Although the wind kicked up fiercely, I had my attention on something else and paid no heed. At one point, I suddenly remembered the model on the sill. I jumped up, went to the window and looked for my model. It was not where I thought I'd left it. Did I absent-mindedly put it somewhere else? I was sure I'd put it on the sill. I looked all around the room near the window, thinking maybe I was mistaken and had actually put it close to the window, but not on the sill. Soon, my suspicion that the model had gone out the window was confirmed; the model was no longer in the room. The only place it could be was somewhere outside. :Mad_6: I leaned out the window, trying to spot the half-gray and half-white styrene model. Nothing. I realized that it must've fallen somewhere down below amidst the bushes along the ground floor of the hotel. It was nighttime and from the 8th floor, I wasn't likely to see it in the dark. I began to think I’d lost the model forever. All that work and now, my LCI was going to find a new home as a bathtub toy for a Japanese kid. Realizing I had nothing to lose, I decided to take a chance and go downstairs to see if I could find it.

When I got to the ground floor of the hotel, I began scouring the area below my window, but I found that it was blocked off: it was an area for hotel employees only. I thought, “If only I could get one of the employees to either look for it for me or let me into the area to search, maybe I could find it.” A few minutes later, one of the bartenders, a sweet older woman who everyone called, 'Mama-san,' came along. I tried to speak slowly and clearly: could she please help me; a model ship had fallen out of my window. Could she help me search for it? She motioned me ahead of her; it looked like she was going to help. I was suddenly optimistic about recovering my model. We walked a few feet and then she motioned to the staircase leading to my room and said, "Please." She hadn't understood a word. Or maybe she just thought I was nuts or drunk. She wasn't going to help.

I went back up to my room. In between bouts of condemning myself for being so careless, I looked out the window again several times, hoping to spot it. No amount of intent staring would reveal where the model landed. Well, I hoped, maybe the hotel workers would find it and I could get it back. I just hoped nobody walking along the street behind the hotel found it and took it home to his children.

The next morning, before I went to breakfast, I decided to look again. My room is at the end of one wing of the hotel. The adjacent wing appears to have been a later addition to the hotel and was of a different design. Each floor of the adjacent wing had open-air walkways. I hadn't noticed that the night before. “Maybe the model had been blown into one of these walkways?” This time, I decided to look at some of the lower floors in the other wing.

By chance, I went to the fourth floor and opened the door to the open-air walkway. There on the floor in front of me was the aft portion of the model. The bow of the ship had obviously broken off during the LCI’s flight. “Hallelujah!” I thought. As much as I disliked the idea of starting over building a new bow, I could live with regaining the stern of the ship. After all, all it would take was more styrene and time to build another bow. But I hoped that maybe my luck would continue - maybe I'd find the rest of the model? I checked every floor, expecting to see the white styrene bow sitting on the floor, waiting for me. Alas, no. As I left for work, I was not quite so mad at myself as before, but still grumbling and making plans to build a new bow. :Mad_5:

After work, I decided I'd see if there were a way around to the back of the hotel so I could search for my model without having to rely on any of the local Japanese. I quickly found that the hotel owners don't want people wandering behind their hotel; the accesses were locked up tighter than Fort Knox. Well, now I was almost as downhearted as when the wind first took my model. Hell, I thought, I'll try one last time to see if I can spot it. I went to the first floor walkway for a look. Nothing. Then, by chance, I looked through an opening in the wall on the walkway and there was the missing bow! But it was out of reach. I looked around for something that would enable me to hook the bow and drag it towards me, but there was nothing. I briefly thought about trying to get help from the hotel staff, but then, recalling how I'd been shown the door the night before, decided to exhaust all of the rest of my options before I tried to get their help again.

I needed something to extend my reach. My umbrella! I went up to my room and got it. The day was warm and sunny, so I imagined it looked strange for me to be walking around with an umbrella, but I was on a mission to retrieve the rest of my model. With a tool to reach the model, I now began probing blindly through an opening in the wall. It was a long drawn-out effort to snag the model because I couldn’t directly see the results of my efforts. I'd swipe at where I thought the bow was and then pull my arm back and have a look and then regroup. I didn't seem to be having any luck. I kept at it and soon, I noticed that the bow was slowly moving my way until finally, I was able to reach out and grab it. Ah, sweet victory! :woo_hoo:

And now you know the Tale of the Flying LCI :heh:

John :wave_1:
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 01, 2017 11:03 pm 
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Hi everyone,

Fortunately, the hull and bow had a clean break as a result of the LCI’s first flight and I set to work putting the model back together.
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File comment: The hull and bow went back together easily.
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File comment: After installing the sheeting on the bow, the seams were filled in with green putty and sanded.
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File comment: Then, a shot of gray primer to check out the appearance. The green putty amidships is filling in the troublesome divots outboard of the bulkhead aligning guides. These divots can be seen on every molding of this kit. They are easy to overlook and even show up on some completed models. The lower hull sheeting has some tricky curves, so I’ve saved it for last.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 02, 2017 9:38 pm 
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Hi everyone,

At this point, the model was starting to come together. Take a look:
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File comment: Due to the extensive mods to the hull and the poor fit-up of this old kit, some filling around the superstructure surfaces was necessary to get rid of the prominent seams.
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File comment: Most of the alignment holes on the superstructure are unnecessary, so I filled them with pieces of styrene rod. It turns out the portholes on the port side of the superstructure are in the wrong location, so after having drilled them out earlier, I’ve filled them in. You can see I’ve installed the lower hull below the bow chines – quite a challenge. The distinctive joint on the chines was replicated using .040 x .040 inch styrene. Also, I used .040 inch half-round styrene backed with .010 x .040 inch styrene strip for the missing upper rubbing strips on the edge of the new deck.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 03, 2017 6:35 am 
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I'm always interested when somebody does a rework this extensive. Please keep the updates coming. I'm intrigued to see how this turns out (and I also hope the model doesn't decide to go flying on you again). :smallsmile:

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 03, 2017 2:18 pm 
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Hey, at least it's one of those "stories you can tell your grandkids," especially with a happy ending! :big_grin:

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 03, 2017 4:51 pm 
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Hi everyone,

At this point, if you were following along in your own conversion of the model, the model could be finished by attaching all the little bits and pieces from the kit onto the hull. Of course, if you’ve read my other threads, you know I wouldn’t take that path. Today, I’ll show you the start of detailing-up the model and replacing some of the really poor fittings from the basic kit.

First, I want to thank Jodie for posting these kind words:
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I'm always interested when somebody does a rework this extensive. Please keep the updates coming. I'm intrigued to see how this turns out (and I also hope the model doesn't decide to go flying on you again).

Sean also commented on the Flying LCI:
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Hey, at least it's one of those "stories you can tell your grandkids," especially with a happy ending! :big_grin:

Jodie and Sean, I’ve learned my lesson from my brief journey into nautical aviation – keep the model away from the window sill! I won’t be doing that again. :heh: Glad to hear you enjoyed the story - I’ve been dying to tell it since I got back!

Great to hear from you both! :thanks: :thanks: :thanks:

Now, let's take a look at some of the changes:
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File comment: I was going to try to minimize some reworking of the model and use the kit ladder houses, filing slots in the edges for inserting some angle styrene to replicate the ladder installation on the actual ships. After going to this trouble, I realized the model had the wrong number of steps. Oh well, time to regroup.
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File comment: Here you can see a number of changes. First, I filed the faces of the ladder houses flat so that new steps can be added. I also modified the plan of the forward and aft ladder houses. The kit’s shapes are close, but no cigar. I built up the bulkheads of the ladder houses with .010 inch styrene sheet. Eventually, I’ll add 3/64ths inch angle styrene to the ladder houses and insert steps of .010 x .040 inch styrene. The fantail hatch to after steering is a piece of .125 inch styrene tube, capped with .010 inch styrene and a PE handwheel.
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File comment: I’ve also begun adding chocks and the bases for the bitts. Chock bases were fashioned out of .100 x .125 inch styrene. Bitt bases are strips of .010 x .100 inch styrene for the focsle bitts and .010 x .060 inch styrene for the rest of the hull.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2017 12:51 am 
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Hi everyone,

Been making slow progress the last couple days; too many irons in the fire, I guess! Today, a little bit more progress on the bitts.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 9:11 pm 
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Hi everyone,

Can you believe it? - The last time I posted anything about this project was June 10, 2017; over 3 years ago! My oh my, how time flies! Those who have been following this thread have probably wondered if I’d given up or the ‘Flying LCI’ had flown the coop. I want to assure you that neither is the case. (BTW, if you are new to this thread and don’t understand the meaning of the ‘Flying LCI,’ see my post from May 31, 2017.) Several projects got in the way of this one and it got moved to the back of the line, but the shipyard is back to work once more. Today, let me tell you about progress I’ve made since the last post.

In the past couple days, I finished up the port and starboard chines on the lower hull using .040 x .040 inch styrene strip. I added the steps to the aft superstructure ladder using .010 x .040 inch styrene strips. I also added details to the superstructure WT doors and drilled the holes for the lifeline stanchions. The most prominent change is the addition of the gun tubs, which are .005 inch brass. Here’s a couple views:
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File comment: A few of the deck details have gotten broken off in the past 3 years while the model has been shuffled around, so I'll have to do some rework there!
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I still have a bit of detailing to do, but I am already planning for the final paint scheme. Originally, I’d thought about painting the model overall haze gray. Lately though, I’ve changed my mind; I’ve decided to paint yet another model in camouflage. This time, I am going to paint it as the ships appeared fresh out of the shipyard. Here’s a photo of the LCI(L)-798 to show you what I’m am thinking about.
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