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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:03 am 
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Niiiiiiiice.


Thanks Chris ,appreciate your interest :wave_1:

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 8:02 am 
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SovereignHobbies wrote:
Kits like this really annoy me. Paying so much money to get you a missaphen lump that requires similar skill and effort that would be required to scratch build just seems unethical.

That armour belt is a case in point. You're making a master for kits that will be sold for hundreds. Is it really asking too much to expect the pattern maker to use some extremely basic construction techniques and use their sodding eyeballs to check it's symmetrical before casting?

It makes my blood boil. The kit would be better value for money if it just contained drawings and unused raw materials.



James ...I totally agree with You,but this topic is quite sensitive, Yes ,the kit has some inaccuracies ,starting with the mispositioned aft superstructure,but my main gripe was with the unequal shape of the hull ,but I think was due of the resin shrinkage than a wrong master (want to be fair with ISW) that was a pain in the butt to solve and the reason of the belt misplaced also.

Another big problem with this kits apart of the price :Mad_6: is the need to use lots of aftermarket resources to complete a decent build,I will replace all the armament and many other fittings ,cause the stock are very ,very poor, but again , aftermarket parts is the name of the game mostly on all the kits.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts which are very interesting.

More pics ,and want to share a kind of review for the main guns


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 8:32 am 
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I finished with the secondary weapons, those little fellows are really good looking and price/quality very good choice.
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Now the turn for the main guns

Decided to use Micro Master printed turrets and Master Models 36 cm Kongo guns,just erased the rings on the brass barrels near the blast bags. The other choices were B&D barrels,printed and stock, must say I am pretty disappointed with B&D barrels , they are the most expensive of all and quality wise are behind the Master model pieces,printed pieces are fairly good but still behind brass even after the B&D,stock are just a joke.

the turrets ,stock are not really bad ,but again quality wise are miles behind the printed turrets from Micro Master


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Hello fellow modelers, again bringing a short update on building this Iron Shipwrights HMS Orion.
Found I think the last flaw on the model and to recall them
1) Aft superstructure in wrong place(should be backwards 6mm or 1/4 inch
2) Very asymmetric starboard side of the hull,need a good quantity of filler/styrene to solve the problem
3) Armour belt is not symmetrical near the bow ,need to be redone in the last third

Now I found the last , and in this one I do applied the rule # 2 in my policy ,because it was to much problem cutting a big piece of resin and repairing it, so I will only increase the width of the funnel location on starboard by .020" with plastic strip and hopefully will be covered by the funnel itself
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Don't worry on the mast ,is only dry fitted

This big resin ships are full of little casting problems :Mad_6:

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Now more on the model .I am working on the few pieces the model has, actually on the bridge and the funnels.

On the bridge basically I kept everything stock and only add some finesse details,still not finished but planning to use North Star Models
RN bridge accessories(fantastic stuff BTW)

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Funnels was a lot of fun :eyes_spinning: excessive detail on the strakes and I decided to erase almost all detail and make new one with primer and masking, IMO believe it tamed down the funnel and looks more in scale

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Starting with the photo etch

Is a generic set for use in different ships from ISW , I believe is for the HMS Canada,HMS Orion,HMS Agincourt and HMS Bellerophon
To say somethin ,is very basic and the parts are not etch relief at all and are veryyyyyy thin.
I got troubles to fit them on the funnel grills , they are very small,now I did my own grills


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 5:59 pm 
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You are doing a great job on this most difficult and frustrating build! I salute you!


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Joe Simon wrote:
You are doing a great job on this most difficult and frustrating build! I salute you!


My dear Simon... thanks for your support ,I am following your truly amazing Yamato build , that one is a fantastic work,mine is a simple model correcting procedure ,trust me ,nothing fancy.
this is your build
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:big_grin: :big_grin:

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Thank you but believe me the work you are doing on that is most impressive. Those kits can be pull out your hair screaming down the street frustrating! Look forward to the finished product!


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