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 Post subject: 1/350 HMS Edinburgh
PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 4:46 am 
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Hello forum. I got the Trumpeter Belfast about a year ago and made a start with the Flyhawk upgrade set. I considered making her as HMS Edinburgh, decided not to, then saw an incomplete kit on ebay for half the price and grabbed her, so I've got both sisters under way, Belfast as full hull and Edinburgh planned as waterline (well, slightly less than waterline...).
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I made a start on Edinburgh by fairly crudely scraping and sanding off the hull bulges which are unique to Belfast, fitted after her mine damage.
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I've also scratch-built the lower deck aft of the focstle break that was on the class as-built (Belfast started life with this open too).
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I'm also planning to hack off Edinburgh's stern to depict her in her final moments after her encounter with u-Boats and Zerstorers in the Arctic. So far my references are written (Last call for HMS Edinburgh), the Belfast AoTS and some photos and rather pixelated drawings from the interenet.
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If anyone has good information on the fit of Edinburgh on her last voyage or the differences between Belfast and Edinburgh I'd be delighted to share.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 11:02 am 
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https://www.world-war.co.uk/Edinburgh/e ... class.php3
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 12:15 pm 
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This looks interesting! I'll be watching! :thumbs_up_1:

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 Post subject: Re: 1/350 HMS Edinburgh
PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 12:51 pm 
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Model Ship Builder ran a 3-part series on building 1:600 scale models of EDINBURGH and BELFAST in May-October 1996, and Model Shipwright number 48 contains an article on scratchbuilding a 32ft:1inch EDINBURGH, in the 1942 configuration.

According to Alan Raven & John Roberts British Cruisers of World War Two (Arms & Armour Press, 1980) EDINBURGH went through various refits: firstly in March - October 1940 at South Shields when RDF (radar) Type 279 was fitted at both mastheads (this may have been when the whaler bays forward of the catapult were plated in), then in July 1941 at Gibraltar when 6 (possibly 5) single 20mm were fitted (2 (possibly only one) on B turret, 2 on B gundeck just forward of the bridge and 2 staggered on the quarterdeck; it's also possibly that the two 0.5” quads were replaced by single 20mm. Her final refit was from January 1942, when RDF Type 273 was fitted on a pylon aft of the forward 6" DCT, RDF Type 284 fitted on the forward 6" DCT and (possibly) 3 sets of RDF Type 285 fitted, one on each HA.DCT. I've seen no indication that she had barrage directors for her 6" guns, with or without RDF Type 283, but she may have had RDF Type 282 fitted to her pom-pom directors as BELFAST did.
She may have had changes to her boat and raft stowages. According to the Model Ship Builder articles, EDINBURGH carried Carley floats as follows:
• Four small ones to starboard of the after HA.DCT at ‘X’ turret level (two stacks of two, flat on the deck – where the Airfix BELFAST has a small director).
• Five small ones to port of the after HA.DCT at ‘X’ turret level (two stacks, flat on the deck, three in after stack).
• Two each side of the after funnel – replacing a boat on the BELFAST kit – again flat on the deck.
• A stack of large ones on the catapult deck just aft of the for’d superstructure at the deck-edge each side (two per stack?).
• One large and one small one each side of the after superstructure – vertical, standing on the rounded ends.
• One small one, flat on the deck above the for’d 4” gun crew shelter on each side.
Note the articles show no floats on or under the paravane decks either side of the bridge superstructure – although there are darker patches on the WASP r/v photo which could well be floats, and I've seen another photo which looks to have a pair of floats there, on the stbd side.
In British Cruisers of World War Two there’s an overhead photo (admittedly captioned May 41) and a broadside shot (captioned late 41) which shows most of these floats. There’s a photo at http http://www.navyphotos.co.uk/Battleships ... hbat4b.jpg which shows the catapult deck floats.
There are a couple of shots showing a fairly small number of scuttles, and one can assume the rest were plated over.
Note also that her mainmast yardarm was lower than BELFAST's, and she had no ladder down from rear 4” position to the quarterdeck.


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 Post subject: Re: 1/350 HMS Edinburgh
PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 1:43 pm 
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Thanks for all the information and links, great stuff! Unfortunately it looks like I might have to plate in the deck forward of the catapults though. Ho hum. Well, I'm just glad I asked and found out before finishing her!


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 3:39 pm 
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If you want to continue to post updates, I can move this over to the work in progress forum. Let me know...

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 4:46 pm 
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Martin, yes please, if that's where it should be. I'm new here!


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 6:38 pm 
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Welcome aboard. Good luck with your build!

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 25, 2017 3:34 am 
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My main references for the damage to the stern come from these photographs.
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The deck was wrapped up over the after turrets putting them out of action.
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I believe this shows the missing poop deck looking aft and unless I'm mistaken there's no deck planking showing. I assume the force of the explosion and the twisting of the deck would spring the deck planking off the deck. I also think I can see an Oerlikon shield off to the right.
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I've traced the deck plans and longitudinal section from Anatomy of the Ship and worked out roughly what I think the twisted metal represents where I can see recognizable features.
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I just need to scale these drawings up to 1/350 and scratch some decks and bulkheads.


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That looks like a really good start and a most interesting project! :thumbs_up_1:

I shall be observing!

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2017 1:04 pm 
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Thanks Jim, I’m just beginning to find my way around the site and the vast wealth of info and talent here. I’m thinking I should put one of the Halcyon class alongside which seems to mean a scratchbuild is needed. I have some plans for Harrier but no hull lines or sections.


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Just found this one Al,

looking forward to seeing some progress, and seeing it in the plastic.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 3:33 pm 
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Nice start there. Something about this class makes me see them as though two different ships had been cut up and stuck back together incorrectly :) But I do rather like them, all the same. Since the sides on Belfast are open, I assume you're building her in wartime configuration, with torpedo tubes?

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