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PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2018 6:19 pm 
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Grizly wrote:
Here's a tip for when you get to assembling the five unrotating projectile (UP) rocket launcher. When it comes to wrapping Pontos part 857 around the Trumpeter parts F21 -F-23 you run a high probability of messing it up as 857 exceeds the circumference of the combined five Trumpeter parts. I did (messed up 857, that is) and had to revert to using the equivalent Trumpeter etch part PE D-16 which is much the same as the Pontos part 857. If you add 20 thou strips that are slightly narrower than the width of the tubes top and bottom (to allow for the 45 degree corners) you will find (at least I did) that 857 or Trumpeter's part PE D-16 will fit nicely.


Thanks Grizly..it may be a good few months before I get to these but I hopefully will recall your tip....cheers

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 12:50 am 
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Which brings me to a point regarding the Pontos detail. I am probably far more advanced into this project than
most and have decided to not slavishly stick to the Pontos sets. With some care, the Trump. parts are the equal
of the after market "bits and pieces". I, too, ran into this problem but stuck with the Pontos upgrade. Am thinking
of starting again using the Trump. PE. Don't get me started on the quad MG's ......


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Timhan wrote:
Which brings me to a point regarding the Pontos detail. I am probably far more advanced into this project than
most and have decided to not slavishly stick to the Pontos sets. With some care, the Trump. parts are the equal
of the after market "bits and pieces". I, too, ran into this problem but stuck with the Pontos upgrade. Am thinking
of starting again using the Trump. PE. Don't get me started on the quad MG's ......



yes I have already noted the MG's, I doubt that they will survive assembly but we shall have a go...I will take a look at the kit ones too to see if they are any better...how the resin bodies are supposed to support the weight of the brass parts is beyond me?...

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A quick couple of questions to keep the discussion alive. Regarding the Pontos locker assembly located in the centre of Page 2 using parts 751 thru 755, if assembling the lockers with closed doors, I assume one is supposed to use part 754, however, I have yet to figure out how you are supposed to feed the centre dogs thru the slots. It is true that the process is easier if using parts 752 and 753 instead of 754 and have completing a handful of lockers with closed doors using the open door parts. I'm just curious how others may have tackled this feature. And a question regarding the clear lenses provided for the searchlights, I have found them too large to fit into the body of the searchlights. I have purchased MV Products' lenses P/N 228 with a 5.8mm diameter but unfortunately they too are too great in diameter to sit properly in the searchlight body. Any thoughts on this aspect of the build? And finally for those who like pictures, the latest shot of my build - just Trumpeter plus Pontos with minimal additional changes.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2018 7:28 pm 
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Grizly

That's quite the articulating crane and magnifying light you have mounted on the forecastle. What scale is that?

BTW the Hood is coming along very nicely too, keep it up.

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she's looking great Grizly..:)... alas I haven't got to the lockers yet so can't help on that one...sorry for lack of updates lately, I'm a little busy in the workshop, this week involves a little machining making some foglamp holders for my son's Escort Cossie restoration... alas you can't by these parts new and second hand have crazy price tags around £500... silly money for bits of metal and a wire cage...so need this week I need to mill and then fold some steel sheet to match the prototype holders. Takes time....but I have done a little more to 'Hood' vents and forward breakwater as seen here..

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I think I read somewhere that the tops of the breakwater housings are the same colour as the shelterdeck... perhaps someone can say yes or no to this...cheers

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 8:09 am 
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Unfortunately, I can't shed any light on the breakwater colour. I painted mine the lighter grey. Conversely, here's another tip for future consideration. While Pontos provides clear resin lenses for the searchlights, try using MV Products lenses instead. Their backing is pre-silvered and certainly look the part once installed.
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I see no difference in contrast in the breakwater. And the more I look at late pics of HMS Hood with the recent AP507A/B discussion in mind, the more I lean towards the same colour for both vertical and horizontal surfaces...


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Love the color of it, looks very good.

The depth markings on the hull /look wrong, too high. Not seen this on ANY references I checked. Are you sure?

EJFoeth wrote:
I see no difference in contrast in the breakwater. And the more I look at late pics of HMS Hood with the recent AP507A/B discussion in mind, the more I lean towards the same colour for both vertical and horizontal surfaces...


I really doubt the horizontal surfaces were some one off 507B. They were dark gray, thats common knowledge. You just cant base your views on some WW2 photos when it comes to shades of gray on vertical vs horizontal surfaces. Light gray on vertical will be darker than it is and dark gray on horizontal will be lighter than it is. Hood should be dark gray deck and 507b hull... thats like a view that seems most cross references going for it, all other views are just interpretations of the same facts but with less accuracy I think.

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pascalemod wrote:
Love the color of it, looks very good.

The depth markings on the hull /look wrong, too high. Not seen this on ANY references I checked. Are you sure?

EJFoeth wrote:
I see no difference in contrast in the breakwater. And the more I look at late pics of HMS Hood with the recent AP507A/B discussion in mind, the more I lean towards the same colour for both vertical and horizontal surfaces...


I really doubt the horizontal surfaces were some one off 507B. They were dark gray, thats common knowledge. You just cant base your views on some WW2 photos when it comes to shades of gray on vertical vs horizontal surfaces. Light gray on vertical will be darker than it is and dark gray on horizontal will be lighter than it is. Hood should be dark gray deck and 507b hull... thats like a view that seems most cross references going for it, all other views are just interpretations of the same facts but with less accuracy I think.


Perhaps semantics, but Hood was more likely wearing 507A Dark Grey or a dockyard matt paint equivalent Dark Grey by the time she was sunk in 1941. Admiralty Pattern 507B had long been discontinued by spring 1941.

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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2018 6:32 pm 
Hi Pete,
Just checking in to see if you have managed to find some bench time on the Hood?
Looking forward to seeing an update.
Kind regards,
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Hi Pete,
Just checking in to see if you have managed to find some bench time on the Hood?
Looking forward to seeing an update.
Kind regards,
Chris


Above post was from me but I was not logged in... Sorry

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Hi Chris

Sorry for the late reply....I've not had time for working on Hood for some time....I'm also half way through building a locomotive which alas is my first priority.....it's been all go over the last few months trying to get some paint on her ready for a memorial event for an LNER footplate man who passed away 13 years ago now. This will be my 3rd year with the loco displayed.....I use it as a bar to see how I've progressed over the previous 12 months...
I will get back on Hood eventually....I need to make a case before putting anymore detail on her....

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Hi Pete,

Just re-reading your thread, such an amazing resource and was wondering if you have managed to find some more time for your Hood project?

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fooesboy wrote:
Hi Pete,

Just re-reading your thread, such an amazing resource and was wondering if you have managed to find some more time for your Hood project?

Kind regards,
Chris



Hi Chris

Sorry for the late reply...I'm still flat out on my 'loco' build.. I would love to get back on to Hood, just can't do it right now....rest assured I will get it finished at some point...:)

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After a more than two year slog (mean that in a positive way), i have installed all the deck railings. However, i have noticed that the forecastle
railings do not line up with the bits and chocks. The rest are just fine, but these forward sections are way out of sinc. Maybe my bad modelling,
but had to make a raft of changes and adjustments. If anyone else has noticed this problem, would be glad to hear back.
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I've been drilling in the location of the railing stanchions for my model and noticed the spacing is very irregular; ... so it does not surprise me that regular railing does not line up well everywhere. Normally stanchions flank the bits, openings for the admiral's ladders, and so on, then they are spacing out regularly between them.


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Thanks E.J.. Glad an expert such as you also had to put on the thinking cap. For us mere mortals using the Pontos set, this might
be an "issue". I suspect Pontos might have been a bit lazy in assuming all the lengths and gaps would line up in sinc. They do not.
A snip here and a tuck there has solved most of the problems, but had a devil of a job creating neat joins. By the way, this problem
only affects the fore deck sections from the breakwaters looking forward.
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I'm not an expert, I simply encountered the same problem! (Unless you like the definition by Bohr: An expert is a man who has made all the mistakes which can be made in a very narrow field. :smallsmile:) I also noticed that stanchions with that angled support is usually a sign there is a change in the 'pace' of the railing and there are tons of those, especially on the bow. Note that near the bits (and some other details as well) that the lowest line of the railing does not continue.


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EJFoeth wrote:
Note that near the bits (and some other details as well) that the lowest line of the railing does not continue.


I noted that...:)

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