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PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2020 7:11 am 
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That lower hull is starting to look good! The faded look is successful I think! :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:

Biplane PE usually has both the (vertical) support struts and (diagonal) rigging between the wings together. I always wonder why, because the rigging always looks overscale indeed on such small items.
I think it would be best to add only struts in PE (or stretched sprue), paint the plane, and then add the rigging in the thinnest possible black stretched sprue. That last step would be optional, for the masochists amongst us... :big_grin:


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You can also get some incredibly fine gauge wire for these things. I think I have a reel of 0.01mm stainless. I can barely see it!

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Martocticvs wrote:
You can also get some incredibly fine gauge wire for these things. I think I have a reel of 0.01mm stainless. I can barely see it!


Yeah, I am drawing the line on that and NOT going to do this much work on the Walrus. I like accuracy, I dont like overscale stuff too much, and I like my eyesight and sanity. It is a balance! :)

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That lower hull is starting to look good! The faded look is successful I think! :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:

Biplane PE usually has both the (vertical) support struts and (diagonal) rigging between the wings together. I always wonder why, because the rigging always looks overscale indeed on such small items.
I think it would be best to add only struts in PE (or stretched sprue), paint the plane, and then add the rigging in the thinnest possible black stretched sprue. That last step would be optional, for the masochists amongst us... :big_grin:


Thanks Marijn! I think the weathering will continue on the weekend. The paint dried well enough, and I can move on with more work on deck, slowly approaching the dreaded paint or make it stained phase. I still haven't decided! I have this dilemma that I want a dark deck, but it would imply a freshly painted ship and funny boat arrangement that Im trying to figure out. But I want weathered hull during speed runs, and then I might need to have stained dark deck that is worn out, or wooden deck, and boat arrangement that is more vanilla. Decisions decisions. My Hood (posted below is as sunk, and PoW during same time would look cool to just match things).

boats will be covered, never mind they are not covered in this pic. I made that decisions AFTER painting them. Nice time spent. :D


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File comment: What FH provides. I painted all of them, but seems some are not used at all. I dont know why that long motor boat (not 45ft one, but the one that looks closer to 20-30ft with an engine inside) is there for example...
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File comment: Next to completed Hood. Note how much different my hull weathering and painting got. They really clash a bit, I wonder if thats ok or Hood might need a bit of an orange filter or smth. :D
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 04, 2020 8:18 am 
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Nice progress!

You failed to pass the boat exam though :heh:
"I don't know what this is" --> 16ft fast motor boat, aka 'skimming dish'
24ft whaler --> 27 ft whaler
27ft cutter --> 25 ft fast motor boat


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EJFoeth wrote:
Nice progress!

You failed to pass the boat exam though :heh:
"I don't know what this is" --> 16ft fast motor boat, aka 'skimming dish'
24ft whaler --> 27 ft whaler
27ft cutter --> 25 ft fast motor boat


No, it is you who passed the boat test I crested to confuse you. Well done! :lol_pound: :heh:

Now I get a better idea tho!!

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Nice progress, especially these boats. They look very nice, more so when taking account for the 1/700 scale.

As for the hull, I thin kits fine! Isn't also nice that the hulls haven't the same tone? No ship ever looks the same, maybe the Hood is just depicted with a fresher coat of paint than the Prince. (Though Honestly I find the Hood better looking in terms of colors. :mrgreen: )

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Nice progress, especially these boats. They look very nice, more so when taking account for the 1/700 scale.

As for the hull, I thin kits fine! Isn't also nice that the hulls haven't the same tone? No ship ever looks the same, maybe the Hood is just depicted with a fresher coat of paint than the Prince. (Though Honestly I find the Hood better looking in terms of colors. :mrgreen: )


While Hood antifouling is all kinds of custom, and so is PoW, the upper works paint for Hood and PoW is identical. I just havent at all weathered PoW. It goes to show that it is good to pick paint correctly if you dont plan to weather the boat. If you do - in my case it certainly darkens and one must plan for it. I think Hood looks good though, it is really about how it photographs. :)

This weekend Ill paint the deck and add all the extras and try if I have time, weather the upper works. We shall see how that looks after.

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Painted the deck.

I really was contemplating a dark stained deck, but as Im painting her weathered, April - and there she had clean decks, so I made my mind and will go for the ship with clean deck.

Here the model lacks any kind of wash, weathering and few more deck fittings like booms, paravanes, anchor chains etc. But she is taking shape, as all main colors are in. I will lighten up the dark grey on turrets as they feel a tad too dark and then on to gloss coat and all that fun stuff!


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I started weathering Prince of Wales, with dark grey wash for superstructures and hull, and with brown for deck. Had the ship glossed before that and of course, which naturally darkened the paint but I think once all is done it will be pretty good.

I took these shots in natural light real quick (behind a curtain) on an overcast day. It gives a good idea of how the colors look on superstructures.

Next Ill deal with some dot filters on the lower and upper hull to give it some variation. The fun part! I also need to paint up all the tiny details on the ships structures, and then do the dry brushing to bring up the details.

I also noticed few areas that would be good to touch up in these close ups, which is kind of the point of taking closeups of the model. Only then you really notice the problems. :D


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love the color tone to the whole model. I'd be interested in hearing/seeing more on how you detailed the weld lines on the hull. Have read through your description a couple times and I really like the results.


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Themongoose wrote:
love the color tone to the whole model. I'd be interested in hearing/seeing more on how you detailed the weld lines on the hull. Have read through your description a couple times and I really like the results.


Thanks!

So I think the the hull seams were an issue and the bow is much bigger issue as in my effort to glue it all i put too much and it warped the bow. I ended up filling the portions on the lower part, and gave a bit more putty. The whole thing is embarrassing frankly and I didn't have good pics.

Regarding all of the hull proper, I used new fresh putty from Tamiya applied in small points. Sanded with 1000 grit sandpaper. Then there is a trick - boot topping, with wear on it allows to hide any issues on hull joints. I think it worked overall as things look fairly seamless. :)

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Themongoose wrote:
love the color tone to the whole model.


+1! :thumbs_up_1:


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2020 7:09 am 
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Great progress.


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Dan K wrote:
Great progress.


marijn van gils wrote:
Themongoose wrote:
love the color tone to the whole model.


+1! :thumbs_up_1:


Thanks gents! Here is some progress shots.

I used putty to cover all motorboats, fine as they are. I like that look. I dont know if I should cover in canvas all three boats on boat deck that are Matrioshka-dolled, or each boat needs a canvas of sorts, or none at all. Dont know so probably none at all for now. If you look close enough you will see one of the boats stern is exposed to show off some detail. I am copying one of the photos from top down for this.

I have used some weathering pigments (soot) on the funnel tops, to darken them slightly. On pics they lookdarker so they are done that way. I hope that works.

It might appear close to ready but of course, it is not even close.


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Great paint job and weathering. How you can paint the deck after the small fittings have been attached is beyond me!


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Great paint job and weathering. How you can paint the deck after the small fittings have been attached is beyond me!


THANK YOU for the nice words, your Barham is mind blowingly beautiful, and I only wish to have that skill level!

The deck masking sheet has been a huge help. Frankly, I wont paint decks in future without it if I can help it. I dont know how I went on without. With magnifying glass and tweezers, and liquid mask to aid in some tight spots, painting the deck, masking, spray painting the fittings - all of that was fairly easy. The over-spray was mostly corrected to the point you cant see it anymore.

Next, I need to do the following on the ship, even if it looks almost finished:
- sort out masts, Im deciding if white band should be added on the Main mast or not. Gonna pop into CASF on that I guess.
- add the rafts as per photos, whole lot of them (30? ish).
- Add davits, 14 of them
- add the lifeboats into place, darken the canvas covers (too light atm).
- fix the plane into place - does it need a cradle if on rails on deck? probably... means scratch building
- make some banana bread
- deck railings
- rigging
- props
- flags and flag staffs

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Slow progress this week, but manage to just about sort out the 12 davits and all the 54 rafts... :woo_hoo:

All kind of displayed here...

Next items on the list then as per above. I kind of dont like this part of the build - 2 months of work and now IM pretty exhausted. :D


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I am now looking at railings and mast radars next, followed by rigging.

PoW is starting to look good to me. It should be an exciting moment but high pace of building - 2 months for me - feels like Im quite tired of the build. :) Hope to finish it next few weeks!.


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I have installed all railings and started on the rigging. This seems to be tricker than I originally thought - a pattern that keeps repeating with this build.

These are working shots, not great quality it seems but I plan to roll out a full shoot for this model soon enough, I hope.


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pascalemod wrote:
This seems to be tricker than I originally thought - a pattern that keeps repeating with this build.


Haha I know the feeling. She looks very well.


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