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PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2018 9:39 am 
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While building the U-Boat in 1/48 scale I am also starting the 1/700 scale build (this is my first in this scale!). Maybe that is crazy but, why not? :smallsmile:

Some begining build photos:

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2018 12:41 pm 
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:thumbs_up_1: great work


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Nice! Im building the same! :thumbs_up_1:

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2018 5:41 pm 
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Those Flyhawk kits are so sharp and crisp that they put many 1/350 kits to shame!
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 1:45 am 
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That is true! I could not believe it is possible to make such great details! And looking at all 1/200 and 1/350 scale models I just feel disappointment...

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 9:58 am 
I have a few Flyhawk kits in the stash.
I think of them as 1/350 kits that someone shrank!


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If your're building May 1941 POW, those should be UP mounts not octuple pom pom's. Sorry

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Captain Morgan wrote:
If your're building May 1941 POW, those should be UP mounts not octuple pom pom's. Sorry


:thumbs_up_1: that is correct, plus few other small things though the UP launchers with shields is the main visual distinction point.

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Thank You Capitan Morgan and pascalemod for advice. I really have problem with finding proper photos and references to that time. May I ask You to direct me, where to look for those?

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Voyteque wrote:
Thank You Capitan Morgan and pascalemod for advice. I really have problem with finding proper photos and references to that time. May I ask You to direct me, where to look for those?


One version (since I have same kit as you, also converting it to 1941 May) is to look at Flyhawk May 41 PoW release. They made it now, thanks very much, lol. So there you can see differences on the box. In reality it comes down to the radar (its like empty basically on PoW, this lantern shape thing on forwrad mast) and the UP launchers. You need two - one on front upper turret and one on rear turret. If you google PoW pics you will find many. here is some for you from my library which is made from online pics. Im not far into it yet myself, so you will finish yours first. Honestly, just redo the launchers and thats enough. If you google for PoW Bismarck or smth, and PoW in gallery here, the moment you see an all grey PoW, not camouflaged, look into whats on its turrets and on masts. Thats about it. Easy.


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Thank You vey much!

So summing up and adding, as I found the new instruction there are following changes:

1. 1 x UP launcher at the front gun tower.
2. 2 x UP launchers at the rear gun tower.
3. 4 x different guns (bigger) or none on main superstructure.
4. Different radar (no lantern)

It is good news about the radar because I completly screwed up this lantern ;)

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Voyteque wrote:
Thank You vey much!

So summing up and adding, as I found the new instruction there are following changes:

1. 1 x UP launcher at the front gun tower.
2. 2 x UP launchers at the rear gun tower.
3. 4 x different guns (bigger) or none on main superstructure.
4. Different radar (no lantern)

It is good news about the radar because I completly screwed up this lantern ;)


yeah, forgot about point 3 but thats also true I think. wait for PoW 5-41 plans to become available after Oct-Nov and then just copy!

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2018 2:25 pm 
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Also worth adding, the central tub on the HACS tower would have contained the UP director. Which I have discovered was little more than a post, and bar (presumably), and a pair of shotgun butts: https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=nCN ... un&f=false.

As far as I am aware, no images of this exist.

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In one of the above posted pics, a Walrus is being retrieved from the water. It's landing gear is in the down position. Was Walrus' landing gear not retractable? The landing gear in down position was not damaged when landing in water?
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The landing gear is retractable, but almost all amphibian aircraft can raise and lower their landing gear whilst afloat.

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drasticplastic wrote:
In one of the above posted pics, a Walrus is being retrieved from the water. It's landing gear is in the down position. Was Walrus' landing gear not retractable? The landing gear in down position was not damaged when landing in water?
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Walrus gear swung up into the bottom of the wing.
They also tended to flip over on landing in water if the gear was down.
This photo is well after the landing since it’s being hoisted onboard. I would assume the gear was lowered in the water or as it was hoisted since it would be easier to set it on it’s landing gear on the hanger deck to then maneuver the plane into its hanger.


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So if I was going to model a Walrus, wings folded, and on it's launch trolley (on the catapult, apparently just exited from the hanger ), would the landing gear be up, or down, or either?
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For anyone building the "Pursuit of Bismarck" version: are the UP launchers included on a common sprue to both PoW kits, or are they on a special small sprue which is not included in the later version?
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drasticplastic wrote:
So if I was going to model a Walrus, wings folded, and on it's launch trolley (on the catapult, apparently just exited from the hanger ), would the landing gear be up, or down, or either?
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Usually the Walrus would sit on its wheels in the hangar and would be pushed to straddle the catapult and mounted on the shuttle thing with its wheels still down. They're retracted before launch though such that if the engine conked out it could be landed on the water without going head over heels when the wheels touched the water first.

There are some good photos here:
https://www.wwiivehicles.com/great-britain/aircraft/amphibian/supermarine-walrus-amphibian.asp

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drasticplastic wrote:
So if I was going to model a Walrus, wings folded, and on it's launch trolley (on the catapult, apparently just exited from the hanger ), would the landing gear be up, or down, or either?
:wave_1:

For anyone building the "Pursuit of Bismarck" version: are the UP launchers included on a common sprue to both PoW kits, or are they on a special small sprue which is not included in the later version?
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Landing gear will be down with the folded wings. This link will show you the catapult procedures.

https://youtu.be/6dmNyts7f1w


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Thanks!
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