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PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2019 11:56 am 
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I am starting the construction of the Prinz Eugen, Tamiya 1/700. A big obstacle is the fact that he wants to do it with a camouflage for the Cerberus 1942 operation. There are really few such models on the Internet, so I can not see where I have a very good look. But I hope I can manage it somehow. Keep fingers crossed!


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 12:57 am 
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I know, David, I know these pages,thanks :smallsmile: . I've probably read everything from the internet on this topic. However, I am looking for photos of how camouflage looks from the stern and from the bow of the ship. Maybe someone has such photos?


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 3:05 am 
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The German naval camouflages book has this info, Ill check out for you tonight. The thing is if they dont have it - chance are you are out of luck and have to improvise. Hence perhaps, the lack of models with this camo as many give up.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 5:21 am 
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Pascalemod, you are great! I am waiting impatiently and thank You in advance :big_grin:


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 11:28 am 
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I confirm the above pic posted - it is the only one they got in the book .So you have to assume it is a mirror one on the other side...

At the end of the day, CErberus ship carried a Baltic Camouflage that was peaking through many applications of darker greys. So you should get that right, and the rest is details. ANd Baltic camouflage was mirrored on the other side. So your only concern is deck (where they moved the flag markings around and old ones are still traceable (pinkish grey) and the splotches and such are all super random to try to copy them...

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 11:58 am 
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So I should do more or less (middle figure) and colors according to Tamiya's instructions ... http://www.kbismarck.com/prinz.gif
I think well? :smallsmile:
Pascalemod, :big_grin: :big_grin: :big_grin:


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 12:27 pm 
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OK, it will be April.
I apologize for the trouble and many thanks! :smallsmile:


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2019 2:17 am 
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I have mistaken the period of Cerberus' operation and hence the whole misunderstanding.
To sum up this topic, I want to make a camouflage in April 1942, i.e. http://www.kbismarck.com/prinz.gif (middle figure). I'm sorry once again for being misleading :heh:
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This is a photo of Tamiya's instructions with the camouflage I want to do. The inscription in this photo states that it is camouflage from the Cerberus surgery. From your statements, it seems that in this operation, in February 1942, Camouflage was completely different ... Guys, should I mean by that that Tamiya made a mistake? Can you explain it to the layman, because I'm starting to get lost in it ...


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2019 3:41 am 
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This is from my library.... Let me know if this helps, I can share with you directly some higher res image for the model building purposes.

It is February but matches yours. Channel dash camo is the one attached. The one before it is also attached so you can put things into context. So above link is correct.

Note the way they moved the aerial recognition markings and old ones are still there. I admit, this is a cool combo to try to paint!

And after this, it was torpedoed, the stern chopped off, and it had a dark bow and stern paint and regular elsewhere. After that it was much more muted grey color going forward.. Till it became USS Prinz Eugen.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2019 5:22 am 
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I have trouble with English, so please write unequivocally: kamo what I want to do is correct, but it is not from Cerberus time ... YES?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2019 6:48 am 
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Cerberus - top camo. See attachment - it says even on Picture which is Cerberus...

After Cerberus - bottom camo (and Also Tamiya - which is wrong, it is not Cerberus).

Cezary wrote:
I have trouble with English, so please write unequivocally: kamo what I want to do is correct, but it is not from Cerberus time ... YES?
Greetings



Yes, I dont understand what camo you wanna do. Stripes or all dark grey? Dark grey - cerberus, stripes - After cerberus.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2019 7:38 am 
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I want to do it (Fig. No. 2)... regardless of the period http://www.kbismarck.com/prinz.gif :smallsmile:


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Cezary wrote:
I want to do it (Fig. No. 2)... regardless of the period http://www.kbismarck.com/prinz.gif :smallsmile:


For that, I posted you a picture above. you have all you need I guess, or at least all I have I can give!

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 28, 2019 6:29 am 
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Pascalemod ..., thank you very much for your help and I apologize for the confusion. I'm sure I will choose kamo and something will come out, sorry for the confusion! :wave_1:


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Cezary wrote:
Pascalemod ..., thank you very much for your help and I apologize for the confusion. I'm sure I will choose kamo and something will come out, sorry for the confusion! :wave_1:

:thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 29, 2019 4:42 am 
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The shipyard works at low speed, but it works ... and it produces something.
I now have to fold without glue to see how it fits and draw a kamo
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 29, 2019 10:19 am 
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Let's see how it fits ...
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It looks like everything is fine :big_grin:


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 5:16 am 
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That's how it looks today...
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I came to the conclusion that the upper part of the kamo I will do in the instructions, i.e. as in the post Mar27,2019 2:17. Tamiya showed kamo also from the top , so it's easy. The instruction assumes the color of XF-65 Field Gray superstructures. I think it will not be bad if I do it as XF-24 Dark gray, just like on the ship's sides


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 03, 2019 9:19 am 
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I think that it is enough to camouflage, because the whole model will become too dark. (I can always correct ... :big_grin: )
Now the railings and rigging
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Leave, or add dark spots? I will be grateful for suggestions ... :smallsmile: :smallsmile:


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