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PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:28 pm 
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Let me know if you can think of anything else.

Oy! Have you gotten a chance to start sketching Flag conversion Newport News pieces (mainly re-purposed Tartar-D structures built around 3" mounts for flag facilities)?

Thanks so much!

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Let me know if you can think of anything else.

Oy! Have you gotten a chance to start sketching Flag conversion Newport News pieces (mainly re-purposed Tartar-D structures built around 3" mounts for flag facilities)?...

I'm sorry, Navydavesof, the question was specific to any Salem bridge features Tracy would like me to capture in the replacement Salem bridge parts I'm working on. I regret to say that except for turrets, there are no plans to design other Salem parts or conversion parts for other ships of the class.

Below are some renderings of the new bridge after this weekend's updates. Some of what you see here will change and more details will be added. Features that may be of interest:
- The last rendering shows the door on the aft side of the lower deckhouse you (Tracy) asked me to capture. This door and some, but not all, of the other doors will received dogs, too.
- The length of the uppermost deck and deckhouse matches BoGP drawings. It is shorter than the Very Fire kit's parts.
- The shape of the Mk.37 Director tower is consistent with BoGP drawings and photos of Salem, considerably differently shaped than the Very Fire kit's tower which is a simple cylinder.
- The black non-skid is consistent with the Very Fire kit, so that these parts will match the kit's "non-skidded" aft superstructure parts. The non-skid looks very thick in the renderings but is actually just 0.1 mm thin, rising above the deck just enough to be paintable. None of the photos I have of the real ship show any non-skid at all. The ship may have had non-skid applied to her decks and perhaps other references I don't have access to show it. If you would like the non-skid removed from the design, just let me know.
- Vertical reinforcing ribs have been added to the interior of the splinter shielding all around. The Very Fire kit has no splinter shielding ribs.

The model will be separated into 3 parts for easier painting. Generally, the separations will be where a deckhouse meets a deck.


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ModelMonkey wrote:
The model will be separated into 3 parts for easier painting. Generally, the separations will be where a deckhouse meets a deck.

Excellent work, Monkey! You are making some great products!!!

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ModelMonkey wrote:
The model will be separated into 3 parts for easier painting. Generally, the separations will be where a deckhouse meets a deck.

Great idea!

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Steve - really appreciate the work you've put into this. :thumbs_up_1:

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ModelMonkey wrote:
Below are some renderings of the new bridge after this weekend's updates. Some of what you see here will change and more details will be added. Features that may be of interest:
- The last rendering shows the door on the aft side of the lower deckhouse you (Tracy) asked me to capture. This door and some, but not all, of the other doors will received dogs, too.
- The length of the uppermost deck and deckhouse matches BoGP drawings. It is shorter than the Very Fire kit's parts.
- The shape of the Mk.37 Director tower is consistent with BoGP drawings and photos of Salem, considerably differently shaped than the Very Fire kit's tower which is a simple cylinder.
- The black non-skid is consistent with the Very Fire kit, so that these parts will match the kit's "non-skidded" aft superstructure parts. The non-skid looks very thick in the renderings but is actually just 0.1 mm thin, rising above the deck just enough to be paintable. None of the photos I have of the real ship show any non-skid at all. The ship may have had non-skid applied to her decks and perhaps other references I don't have access to show it. If you would like the non-skid removed from the design, just let me know.
- Vertical reinforcing ribs have been added to the interior of the splinter shielding all around. The Very Fire kit has no splinter shielding ribs.

The model will be separated into 3 parts for easier painting. Generally, the separations will be where a deckhouse meets a deck.

Love the upgrade, it's much more realistic! The square 'box' to the right of the at-sea Flag cabin on the aft end of the Flag Bridge is a non-structural tin/steel storage locker with a flush and square-cut door facing aft. The Salem gallery picture Salem237 featuring the ship's bell shows the upper left side of this add-on storage locker.
The forward section of the flag bridge is significantly less detailed that the main bridge above it, so your model got it right. The 'roof' of the main bridge is a tin/steel add-on when the the original canvas rigged covering wasn't really good enough while the ship was in service. The overhead in the Flag bridge should obviously have (and yours does) the structural elements supporting the deck above.

I love your upgrade and I will be ordering at least one set when it is available!

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navydavesof wrote:
ModelMonkey wrote:
Let me know if you can think of anything else.

Oy! Have you gotten a chance to start sketching Flag conversion Newport News pieces (mainly re-purposed Tartar-D structures built around 3" mounts for flag facilities)?

Thanks so much!


Depending on how well the existing Salem and Des Moines kits sell, Very Fire will be doing a modernized Newport News at some point. They have engineered the existing kits to allow for the multiple variations so far: 1) Des Moines as built 2) Salem/Des Moines/Newport News in the first 10 years of service.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2020 6:55 am 
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lmo1960 wrote:
Depending on how well the existing Salem and Des Moines kits sell, Very Fire will be doing a modernized Newport News at some point. They have engineered the existing kits to allow for the multiple variations so far: 1) Des Moines as built 2) Salem/Des Moines/Newport News in the first 10 years of service.
Excellent, thank you! I have put my money where my mouth is, I have my USS Salem kit! Boy is she a beauty?! I am about to begin work on Newport News-like structures for her.

Thanks for the news and updates based upon a possible Newport News version. The great thing about a Newport News version would not be a re-design of the kit, but would instead be additional pieces to add onto the existing kit or swapping some out for others.

Keep up the good work! :thumbs_up_1:

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Just a quick update for everyone to set expectations...

I have been and will continue to be busy with a couple of large "time sensitive" projects at work that have been eating all of my time. I don't anticipate any serious bench time for the next two weeks. :dead:

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Good news, Tracy and friends, your new 3D bridge design is done. I'll run a test print shortly.

The 3D model is significantly different in detail than the kit parts.

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Here are the kit parts for comparison with the 3D model shown above. Notice the shape differences between the kit's pilot house and Mk.37 director tower with those of the 3D model.


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Looking forward to things settling down at work so I have some bench time again.

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Ta-daaa.

The model is ready and is now listed in the catalog.


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Looks fantastic Steve! The kit parts don't even belong in the same zip code

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Tracy and Steve(MM)...
You guys are making it impossible to NOT want to buy a 1/350 Salem.

This beautiful kit with those 3D parts will be fantastic.


I had held out hope that the USN would keep that last Gunned Cruiser. Ya know, just in case. The USS Des Moines was still here in Philly in 2005.

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Hey guys - I got my set from Steve on Friday but have been busy catching up on house and yard work and wasn't able to open them until today.

I'm going to go with "wow!" and "Niiiiiiiiceeeee!!!!!!" :thumbs_up_1:

I'll be busy this work though and won't have time to start cutting pieces free until Thursday night. I did want to publicly thank Steve - I asked him if he'd do one or two small parts for me and he did four larger ones. I really appreciate the good people we have in this hobby and Steve's one of them.

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