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PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 5:03 pm 
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Amazing, Thank you!


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 15, 2021 4:03 am 
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Fantastic job. There is great difficulty in all these pieces. I am building the Hms Renown without much detail, but there are common problems. That is why I see that this work is very good.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 15, 2021 11:32 am 
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Must remember that fairlead trick. Very nice build so far.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 15, 2021 4:49 pm 
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Thank you very much for your kind words, gents!


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 19, 2021 9:51 am 
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You have been pretty active; at this level of detail that is some great progress!
Beautiful! :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 2:06 pm 
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Funtastic!

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 7:26 am 
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This is quite something. Just wow!

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 3:34 am 
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Wow indeed!


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 03, 2021 7:01 pm 
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Thank you very much, gents!


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 03, 2021 7:17 pm 
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More than three months have passed and the bridge structure is ready.
Here is a long, picture-heavy post to show you what I have achieved.
There is a common problem with almost all injection molded kits: the decks are usually too thick and consequently, the splinter shields, themselves being overly thick are too low from the inside sometimes resembling a low hedge rather than a comparatively thin bulwark out of sheet metal. Limitations of the injection molding technology can be blamed for this phenomenon which is not as apparent in recent kits as in the early days, but it is still there. To remedy this, all splinter shields have been cut off, the decks thinned down (by partly machine milling), their perimeter cut marginally smaller to accept the new splinter shield, cut and folded out of aluminium sheet with a flange bent outward where appropriate. The result being hand-made, is naturally not without minor flaws and one could question if it was worthwhile to deal with it. One thing is for sure: the work outlined above involved much time and effort. I am convinced that this kit is one of the better offerings in this respect so if it was not for my finicky nature I would not have bothered.
Other alterations included cutting openings into the decks for the access ladders, detailing the walls of the superstructure as well as preparing a surprisingly high number of equipment. There is some more explanation related to the numbered detailed in some of the following pictures.
The superstructure has been worked on tier after tier from the fo’c’s’le deck up, beginning with the shelter deck level.
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All moulded-on details have been pared off from the circumference of barbette ‘B’
1. A new splinter shield was made out of aluminum sheet, complete with reinforcing gussets and top strake
2. The opening in barbette ‘B’ has been made smaller to accept the 3D printed turret
3. All portholes have been drilled deeper, the inside painted black and finished with PE rigols from Artist Hobby
4. An opened-up watertight door with a PE frame can be seen in this blurry portion of the image
The kit’s part of the lower bridge is quite an impressive one-piece affair with some fine details.
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There is always room for improvement, though.
I found a strange flaw which can be easily recognised in the following picture: the vision slits on the upper front part, themselves being too short and high, do not line up: the ones on the starboard side are located lower than the rest.
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Some of the numerous alterations done to the lower bridge are outlined as follows:
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1. A section of railing (WEM ultrafine) was fitted to the back of the signal deck
2. According to original photographs splinter mattresses (WEM) were fitted to the
3. aluminium splinter shield with an outboard flange that replaced the original, plastic one
4. PE mesh fitted to the cut-out face of a bridge vent
5. The aforementioned vision slits of the armoured conning position, were made longer and slimmer and, on the starboard side, brought to the correct height (the blanked-in, original openings can be seen below the new ones)
6. These oblong, went-like structures, clearly identifiable in original photographs might have been unique to Valiant, so I added them
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The shelter deck and lower bridge together:
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 03, 2021 7:31 pm 
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Next level to detail was the admiral’s deck.
As in its original condition:
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The difference between the thickness of the original and the scratchbuilt splinter shields is readily apparent.
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With the splinter shields removed the excessive thickness of the deck is easily seen
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1. More splinter mattresses covering the walls of the wireless office
2. Scratchbuilt splinter shields with an outboard flange
3. Noticeably thinner deck

The uppermost tier of the bridge had to be that of the compass platform and upper bridge. This has been altered considerably as well.
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1. Sides and deck of the compass platform and walls of the upper bridge came from the Tetra QE set – a great addition. Some bridge equipment has been fabricated to add more detail
2. The two HACS IV-s will be affixed to metal rods as pivots
3. The structure supporting them has been refined in more ways than one: deck thinned down, opening enlarged, small platforms and
4. PE ladders added

The main DCT is located behind the compass platform and rests on a cylindrical support. The DCT is a really beautifully detailed piece
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but I felt compelled to add some more bits to it.
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1. Spotting, rate and control officer’s lookout covers
2. PE ladder in lieu of the original, engraved representation which can be seen as an outline in putty
3. A semicircular walkway (PE, FlyHawk)
4. Dial sight (metal rod)
5. Kent clear view screen cover complete with hinges (really small)
6. A circular grab rail, again taken from the very comprehensive FlyHawk upgrade set


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 03, 2021 7:40 pm 
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The two HACS IV instruments are 3D printed items from MicroMaster. Although not from their latest Premium Collection they feature prodigious detail and only needed some PE ladders to finish them (sorry for the blurry image):
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Many pieces of equipment were prepared separately for ease of painting. They have been attached to pieces of cardboard matching their future camouflage colours. The numbered ones are:
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1. Almost entirely scratchbuilt searchlight platform complete with one-bar railing
2. Semaphores made of scrap PE
3. Pre-bent railing for the HACS platform
4. Searchlight sight
5. Air Defence Officer’s sight
6. Air Lookout’s sight
7. HF/DF antenna
8. Pom-pom director
9. Cordage reel
And there are of course numerous other fittings: mushroom vents, ladders, signal flag and other lockers, a pair of 12’ rangefinders, voice pipes, etc.
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When trying to fabricate something resembling the various air defence and other sights I relied on EJ Foeth’s ‘On the Slipway’ website as the most useful reference I could find. I am greatly indebted to him! Alas it was nigh impossible for me to construct a credible interpretation of these tiny pieces of equipment.


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Oops, I have not included a numbered picture of the main DCT.
Here it is:
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And the description:
1. Spotting, rate and control officer’s lookout covers
2. PE ladder in lieu of the original, engraved representation which can be seen as an outline in putty
3. A semicircular walkway (PE, FlyHawk)
4. Dial sight (metal rod)
5. Kent clear view screen cover complete with hinges (really small)
6. A circular grab rail, again taken from the very comprehensive FlyHawk upgrade set
The following pictures show what has become of the bridge.
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Some more pics:
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This is by far the most complex structure on this ship. Having finished it is not without some kind of relief.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 04, 2021 3:10 am 
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That is some really lovely detailing work. Same as your H.M.S. Barham build it would look impressive for 1/350 scale never mind 1/700. Looks fantastic.


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Mr. Church wrote:
That is some really lovely detailing work. Same as your H.M.S. Barham build it would look impressive for 1/350 scale never mind 1/700. Looks fantastic.

Agree 100%. Great stuff!

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2021 1:41 am 
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great work :thumbs_up_1:


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Hello Mr Pek!

you have been very constructive, much fine work and no compromise approach!

This is THE best summation of a well known problem, which I have also sought to
address in various ways over the years...!!
Your quote I will treasure ( and reuse ....!) :thumbs_up_1:

>>>>> .... the splinter shields, themselves being overly thick are too low from the inside sometimes resembling a low hedge rather than a comparatively thin bulwark out of sheet metal. ...<<<<<

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Mr. Church, Martin, Mick, Jim, thank you all for your kind comments!
Mr. Church, I admire the way you have converted the old Frog-derived kits to beautiful replicas of the R class battleships - and you did it at a pace I can only envy!
Jim, I am pleased to read your post as it is not always very easy for me to find the correct way to phrase the thoughts I want to share with you, English not being my mother tongue.


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That bridge is simply fantastic George! :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:

Unfortunately, a high level of detail and sharpness takes lots and lots of time...
Therefore, I'm not surprised this build is not going any faster! :big_grin:
Keep up the great work; no need to excuse for the time spent! :thumbs_up_1:


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