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PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2024 10:21 am 
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Hello,

I am starting a new project. The Japanese battleship ISE after its partial transformation into an aircraft carrier at 1/350.

The ship kit is from FUJIMI. I like this brand for its quality and the nature of its plastic. For the wooden deck, it will be the one from the Artwox brand and for the detail kit the one from Flyhawk.

For the doc, I had in my library the book Japanese Hybrid Warships from Trojca. Very good as a book. For the book from Kagero, you have to take this type of book with a pinch of salt. Because the drawings are 3D interpretations of the designer.

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I also took a lot of products from Black Cat Models. I spent a good week removing the supports and cleaning the parts. But they are really great products (quality, finesse, etc.)

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The first step is to put the hull in waterline version.

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For the staging, I haven't made a choice yet. I would like to make the ship at the dock and in the background the crane of the Kure arsenal. I have quite a few photos of this crane. However, you have to be careful because between the photos from the 40s and the photos of the current crane, there are quite a few differences. I will already model it in 3D and I will see then.

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This is my occupation for the next 12 months.

Fujimi favored its parts injection problems rather than reality.

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So I'm going to completely redo the ship's rear deck in PE

I have just finished the drawings of the Photo-etching board for the rear deck of ISE. As many people ask me how to create your own PE, I will explain how I do it.

First, I start from a reference such as a photo of what I want to reproduce or a scan of the part where I have to do the PE. In this case, the scans of the rear deck of ISE.

To do the PE, you have to draw two sides, the FRONT and BACK of the Board. Then there are two colors that are used:

Black. At this point the acid will not attack the metal.
White. At this point the acid will make the metal disappear.

If you have white on the Front and Back sides, you will have a void on your board.
If you have white on the Front side and black on the Back side, you will get a hollow on the Front side.

I mark the folds of the parts by making a line of 0.17 to 0.2 mm depending on the thickness of the metal. Normally the line will be white on the back side. However, if your fold exceeds 90°, the white will be on the front side.

On an empty surface, you should not make a line less than the thickness of the PE board. In my case, I will use a 0.16 mm board, so I do not make a line less than 0.2 mm. However, it is possible to cheat. For example, on a ventilation hatch, I would make lines with a thickness of 0.1 by making white on the back side.

That's it for the basic principles. As you can see, it's very simple.

I start by making a drawing including both sides of the board. To do this, I use a color code to make my task easier.

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The elements in Blue, which are the supports, will be black on the Verso side and deleted on the Recto side.

The elements in red will be white either on the recto side or on the verso side.

Then I make both sides. It is from this moment that the most boring phase of creating a board begins. On the other hand, you have to be very careful, because the final result of the board will depend on your attention and concentration. Do not forget to vectorize all the texts at the end of the process.

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Once both sides are finished, I save them in pdf. These will be sent via email to Hauler. The delivery time for the engraved plates varies greatly. Before Covid, as a general rule, the delivery time was 2 weeks. During the covid period and after, it took 2 months.

On the other hand, Hauler is a service provider. It does not check your drawings. If you have drawn anything, you will get anything. I speak from experience (LOL).

I will take advantage of the production time of the PE board to do the 3D modeling of the crane of the Kure arsenal

Best regards.

Alain.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2024 10:53 am 
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I'm beginning to think it's normal for you to make two ships at a time! :thumbs_up_1:


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2024 11:26 am 
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Ops, I've written in the wrong topic!
Sorry! :sorry:


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 19, 2024 8:53 am 
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Hello everyone,

After 4 weeks of waiting for the PE board, I have made some progress on ISE.

Below are the photos of the PE board. The quality of the engraving is still there. But the price has increased significantly. Before COVID, this board would have cost me between 20 and 22 €uros. The bill for this last PE board is 34 €. I think that represents a nice increase.

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I have finished the main assembly of the rear axle. With the PE, I find that it gives a much better appearance than the original FUJIMI version axle.

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I will now put all this together and finish assembling the rest of the details of this rear bridge;

Best regards.

Alain.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 19, 2024 9:34 am 
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Great work, and I love that you waterlined it.


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excellent--!
good to see another of your razor sharp models again in construction

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 20, 2024 2:07 pm 
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Nice work. Looking forward to seeing this progress. Thanks for the PE tutorial, I found that interesting as well.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2025 11:40 am 
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Hello everyone,

Small progress on the Japanese battleship ISE.

I'm making slow progress, 1 to 2 hours here and there. I spend a lot of time looking for parts or tools that are in front of my eyes.
On the tower, there is a part remade in scratch that I thought was lost. I looked for it for two days, emptied the worktop, etc. Five days later, I realized that I had not undone it from the sprue.

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I will continue with the ship's bridge.

Best regards.
Alain.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2025 11:16 am 
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Great work on the bridge.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 22, 2025 11:05 am 
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Hello everyone.

The latest progress on the assembly of the Japanese battleship ISE. I have finished the assembly of the lower part of the ship and the part of the aircraft maneuvering rails on the aft deck.

The turrets and the front tower are finished. On the aft tower, I still have to put some ladders here and there.

I will have to draw another PE board for the railings and some other elements.

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The problem with assembling ships is that it takes a long time. So the posts are very spaced out.

Sincerely.
Alain.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 22, 2025 11:16 am 
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Beautiful, precise work.


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Great looking sharply executed stairs on aft of tower!!!! :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:

Bravo!

JIM B :wave_1:

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2025 2:21 pm 
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Beautiful work! And thank you very much for the photo-etch tutorial! :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:

May I ask: what drawing program/CAD are you using?


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Hello everyone.

Marijn, to answer your question. I use Illustrator CS5 to draw the PE.

The rest of ISE. The assembly is coming to an end. The last details remain but these are the ones that require the most time.

On the aft deck, I will put 9 seaplanes with folded wings. 2 with deployed wings and a fighter with folded wings. On this ship the aircraft endowment was 20 units.

This is the first ship where I integrate the most parts in 3D printing. All of these come from Black Cat Model. Now I am able to give you my opinion on these products.

Super good for planes, intermediate AA artillery, reels, deck equipment, such as binoculars, etc.

For secondary boats, I remain doubtful. I find the sales prices too expensive compared to the result. I will assemble the boats of the kit by putting the elements of the PE kit in order to make an objective comparison.

For the ammunition boxes. I don't see the contribution compared to PE products. The only difference is the assembly time and the cost. Knowing that those in PE are included in the Flyhawk kit and in all kits of this kind.

For the single and triple anti-aircraft elements. There I am disappointed. The tubes are too thin and deform on all sides. I prefer the Infini models products where the tubes are made of metal. The problem with the Infini products is that to assemble all the AA artillery for such a ship requires a good month of work.

For the davits, the 3D products are too thin and therefore deform. I prefer to make them in PE. They will be as thin, but without the deformations.

I will stop the assembly for a while, to draw new railings. Those proposed in the Flyhawk Kit do not suit me too much. I will take the opportunity to draw new davits (unfolded and folded) because I do not yet know which version I will put on the ship.

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Have a nice end of the day to you all.

Best regards.
Alain


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That is coming together very nicely Alain! :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:
So much work...

And thank you for the info!


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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2025 8:22 am 
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Hello everyone.

Below are the latest progress on assembling the 1/350 scale IJN ISE. I've finished painting, applying filters, and adding volume to the details. To get an overall view, I did a quick setup without gluing anything.

After working on each detail, the result is only moderately satisfactory. But once everything is in place, the whole thing seems coherent.


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Now I have to install the railings and finish the weathering on the ship and aircraft. Another 3 to 4 months of work.

Sincerely,
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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2025 9:29 am 
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Really good work!
How did you colour with everything already glued!
Masked all the wooddeck???


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Wow. Concise construction and just the right amount of accents; not overdone. Beautiful.

And waterlined. :-)


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Beautifully done, and looking forward how it will fit into the base.

Note to self that there is a way that aircraft had weathered on them typically, something that I didnt even think of in context of modeling planes on a ship.

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