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PostPosted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 4:00 am 
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One of my favorite models here. really like the study of the change in appearance.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 04, 2019 7:41 am 
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Great job Daniel! :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:

Will you mount these slices in a picture frame, with shrouds adn crew, like you did before?

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 04, 2019 2:10 pm 
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Hello Marijn,

no, thoses slices will just be the hull :-)

Need to go back to the big model too.

But ok, it is time to really start the Trafalgar slice.

One remembers: Te ship was recommissioned in March 1803. Possibly with the yellow and black lines, no checker yet. If ever or if when this one was applied, I found no contemporary sources. It might well be that the checker was only a post Trafalgar feature.

The ship hastily sailed into the Mediterranean Sea where it stayed over winter. In April 1805 it starte it famous cruise to Sicily, Gibraltar, Caribbean Sea and back, chasing Villeneuve. On the return in August the hull was painted while being still on sea. End of August, It entered a refit in Spithead, start of September plenty of paint was delivered, a week later they were out on sea again. Possibly plenty of paint jobs were still ongoing at this moment.

The stress of the voyage and the very stressful and time squeezed refit make me think, that the lovely lady possibly already looked a tad shaken already before the battle on 21.10.1805. Especially I imagine plenty on competing touches of paint ...

Turners drawings show clearly the build up forecastle with its gun ports. Not to be seen the timber-heads, shown in most contemporary drawings and models. So I adapted those. Not to forget, the drawings show the ship after hasty repairs at Gibraltar, perhaps those were omitted in the reconstruction of this heavily damaged area.

For the positioning of the yellow strakes I go closely with Maik´s wonderful analysis of Turners drawings.
https://www.segelschiffsmodellbau.com/t ... suche.html

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First fitted the chain boards with lines of Apoxy Sculpt, my favorite way of doing things like that.

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Then searching for the color split lines with markings on tape ...

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... and a first layer of yellow ochre. Not the real final shade yet, only to find the proportions.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 3:31 pm 
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After the 2016-slice was rather in a ship shape Bristol fashion, I would like to go another approach for the 1805 slice.

In the times when there was no RAL, Pantone or DIN color scales, I would suppose that each barrel of paint had a slightly different shade depending upon its provenance, batch or age. Also each barrel from each batch could have been given a different shade depending upon the intermix of the content or the fading stage as of sun and salt or the rust and dirt sitting on the surface. Also given the accounts that the Vic was painted several times being upon high seas, I would rather expect a nice patchwork of 50 thousand shades of yellow ochre. Yes it´s alive!

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And did you discover it? Even the new todays "seamon-pink-hello-kitty" can be found, yes down there, in the left bottom corner, just around the rigol ;-)

Enjoy, XXXDAn

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 13, 2020 11:17 am 
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Small sign of life :-)

Heavy times in the office and also very funny moving home at Corona times, as the dozen of helpers had to be reduced to 2 as the local regulations required.

Also I kept to my credo: knock down and build up again, this time larger scale, the kitchen proved to be the place of my darkest desires. My wife now understands the term of dafinism ;-)

Only difference is that what used to be a 0,4 mm eyebolt is now a 4000 mm worktop in the the kitchen - a magnification of scale of the factor of 10.000!

Start of March, when life was still almost normal, I was with my Vic and my Soleil at the exhibition at Augsburg. Here some pictures from there and also some from the temporary display of my set of the 4 slices.

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I am already looking forward to finish the 1803 version :-)

Happy Easter and stay healthy, cheers!

XXXDAn

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 13, 2020 11:48 am 
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hello Dan

what to say in front of such incredible work ...where the work of historian and model maker is joined :woo_hoo: :woo_hoo:
just sublim :thumbs_up_1:
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2020 1:44 am 
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A wonderful study :thumbs_up_1:


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Awesome Dan, just Awesome! Regards, Pete in RI


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2020 6:53 am 
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Fantastic Dan!
I love the patchwork!
I also like the idea of Vic being in a shabby state at Trafalgar... More painting options for me too! ;)


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VERY beautiful little set pieces...- :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:

-tracing the evolution at its various stages

-also gives you breathing room to continue your quest ...

I think the important thing for you is the journey perhaps... more than the end result in a glass case...

( whereas I love HAVING the finished model --
building it is merely an inconvenience! :big_grin:

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2020 11:36 am 
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The slices are fantastic - a very worthwhile diversion :big_grin:

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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2020 4:29 am 
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Thank you very much Sirs! very appreciated!

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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2020 4:38 am 
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What happened so far ...

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But what is this?

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Is nature trying to get her rights back?

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New home, new life, only the intended tinkering area is still under construction :-0

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First Emergency-workplace was not too successful as every tool proved to take ages to be located in the moving boxes ...

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Also the place in the gardens was nice but good for fitness as all the necessary tools were still missing ...

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... but at least it was flowerpower!

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As then my bottle-ship decided to part from this world ...

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... it was time to CLEAR.

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Then finally my sweet litte darling came back to stay with me :-)

So than working tools out on the table ...

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... and lets have some fun tinkering! The chains for the 1805 slice are needed to be done. And I already managed to blacken them.

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Hope to see you soon again :-)

XXXDAn

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News from the new man cave :-)

Need some deadeyes for the 1805 slice.

First try to make a barrel grinder some times ago did not really work: The sanding paper was too fine and too weak. Also one wing gave up quite fast.

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So did some research and build a new one, this time better and stiffer paper, took 3 sheets with staggered length and a broader axis to be able to tack the sheets properly together.

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The barrel is fixed with a M3 screw.

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First I used my Proxxon but this one was too weak as was to be smelled immediately ...

So took the stronger Dremel. Height and side direction have to be adjusted well, or the machine gets hot immediately. Set the Dremel to step 2 and twice 10 minutes and the deadeyes are well done, depending your taste :-)

Used the good deadeyes from the Syren shop. Last time using PVC the parts have shifted a little laterally :-(

Also using slow binding CA I had this experience, so I build a gauge to press everything together properly in place.

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Result: Dropping-dead-sharp deadeyes

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Tumbled and done.

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Here as a comparison the 5 mm Krick deadeyes. On top à la natüre, then tumbled - it really does a good job on them - and on the bottom with the notches for the lanyards, and a Syren deadeye for comparison.

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that really is mighty excellent !! :thumbs_up_1:

the tool making innovation also !

BRAVISSIMO!

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Thank you Jim, but that was not as innovativ as it looks, it is an old system, but took me some times to fiddle out the details.

But some small bit I still managed to do yesterday:

First organised the parts on slightly adhesive tape for not messing up the running order of the different lengths.

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Then fixed the iron supports ...

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... and as usual started with the shorter irons of the smaller deadeyes.

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That was the state of yesterday night, just to remember, there will still be a batten in front of the board hiding the slots.

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XXXDAn

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And if things speed up, they speed up.
 
Missing the mast for proper alignment, I put some irons in the middle as spacers for orientation.
 
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And suddenly things are done.
 
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Knowing my fat fingers, I will do the final alignment just before the final finish.
 
And too, looks like I need better light on my working place - for better enlightment and pictures ;-)

XXXDAn

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Fantastic work Daniel! :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:

I'm looking forward to doing something like this in 1/300... I think... :big_grin:


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Thankx Marijn!

Looking forward for that ;-)

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Very, very impressive work.


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