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To HMS Victory and beyond
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Author:  europapete [ Mon Sep 21, 2020 10:58 am ]
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Hi Dan, Could you please show us how you splice the ropes? Tools, technique etc. Regards, Pete in RI
Author:  dafi [ Tue Sep 22, 2020 2:29 am ]
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Hello Pete, basically like the real one, just a bit simpler :-)

First I take a thin needle and still sharpen the point up. Then I push the needle through the thread until it is half in ...

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... and only then I put the loose end through the eye. Saves thread like this ;-)

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Just then I pull the needle through. Afterwards I repeat just a bit underneath, but coming from the opposite direction.

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Needle half way through, thread through the eye and pull.

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Then save with some glue and cut with very sharp and pointed scissors.

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And you are done :-)

XXXDAn
Author:  dafi [ Tue Sep 22, 2020 2:31 am ]
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Also works if one cutted a thread by mistake to fit in an extra part. Just like readl life.

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XXXDAn
Author:  europapete [ Tue Sep 22, 2020 3:55 pm ]
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WOW! that is a lot easier than I thought it would be. Awesome, thank you Dan :thumbs_up_1:
Author:  dafi [ Wed Sep 23, 2020 1:53 am ]
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For very thin threads I use a slightly rounded edge - here a empty barrel for blanc DVDs - to fix the thread a bit. Slight stretching it with two fingers of the left hand and then the point of the needle in the right angle :-)

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XXXDAn
Author:  europapete [ Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:04 am ]
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Awesome. I can see this technique will be useful on the rigging of WW1 biplanes too, where the cables are spliced. ( my other modelling passion). Regards, Pete in RI
Author:  wefalck [ Fri Sep 25, 2020 2:13 am ]
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In real life this is called a ‘yarn splice’, at least that’s how it translates from German. I learned about it, when I took sailing lessons in the early 1970s and then included it into my modelling skill set :cool_1:
Author:  dafi [ Mon Oct 05, 2020 1:09 pm ]
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Its always great to have friends that keep an open eye and give valuable hints. Morgan from MSW helped me so much already and here came his updates. The bolster of the anchor lining was to be extended more to the front. Possibly to have the possibility for someone to stand there if the catting needed an action from there. And the small flap on top of the carronade. Most carronades had ports that were higher than the normal ones. As the solid bulwark was not high enough that was an easy way to protect the wood. Thank you tons Gary!

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So the bolster needed a good base to adjust the height ...

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... and the extension was fitted.

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With a lil´bit of color it looks like it was already always there.

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And the flap was an easy Task to be fittet :-)

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And then we took the chance to go and see some modeler mates ...

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All the best, DAniel

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Author:  JIM BAUMANN [ Mon Oct 05, 2020 4:27 pm ]
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just fascinating!-

It is truly a mission; the journey....

crazy--but great!

JIM B :cool_2: :wave_1:
Author:  europapete [ Thu Oct 08, 2020 8:52 am ]
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Morning all. Yesterday I started back at page one reading through this again, and got to the section on ropes. Looking at the comparison pictures for before and after the home-made rope, there is no doubt, I need to get a ropewalk. Will check out the links to the various types of thread and see what there is for videos on you tube on how to do it. Regards, Pete in RI
Author:  dafi [ Mon Nov 02, 2020 1:19 pm ]
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Finalspurt:

Marines approx 1770 onwards

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Marines approx 1800 onwards

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Royal Navy Offizier approx 1910 with his Agfa-box-camera ...

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... and two sailors.

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Author:  marijn van gils [ Tue Nov 03, 2020 4:46 am ]
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Fantastic Daniel! :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:

One thing though: probably it is barely noticeable at their real size, but the blue sailor has an ejector pin mark on his back. This can be easily sanded or scraped away and repainted. Or maybe his back won't be visible anyway?
Author:  dafi [ Tue Nov 03, 2020 5:29 am ]
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Just realised this on the pictures :-) But he is standing against a wall anyway.

Cheers, DAniel
Author:  marijn van gils [ Wed Nov 04, 2020 4:41 am ]
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dafi wrote:
But he is standing against a wall anyway.


Not worth bothering then of course! :big_grin: :thumbs_up_1:
Author:  dafi [ Wed Nov 04, 2020 2:52 pm ]
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As I am a very shy and ´umble person, I forgot to present myself ;-)

So I looked for a template ...

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... carved a tiny bit ...

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... and here it is the small minni-me :-)

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Even with my silver medal present ;-)
Author:  europapete [ Sat Nov 07, 2020 2:16 pm ]
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Great figures there Dan, your hobby bench is probably looking like a field hospital by now. Still looking at a rope walk. I will end up up buying one just to save a bit of time. Does anyone have any thoughts on the Domanoff product? Looks like a rather nice bit of kit, they do a serving machine too. Regards, Pete ps, can you check over on Britmodeller at Moarein's build? he has a Q about the spacing of the name on the stern. Should it be close or wide spaced for Trafalgar.
Author:  dafi [ Mon Dec 28, 2020 5:08 am ]
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Cäptn dafi´s log, addendum:

At the last stop in the Victory-Univers we were able to complete the crew.

First we got the much needed cleaning team ...

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... and then still came Cäptn dafis superior in form of the admirability herself.

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Final spurt :-)

XXXDAn
Author:  marijn van gils [ Mon Dec 28, 2020 12:45 pm ]
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Wonderful!!! :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:

Every artist should put something of himself in his work! :big_grin:
Author:  dafi [ Thu Dec 31, 2020 4:21 am ]
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Grande Finale :-)

Finally I found the time to do the last beauty shots of my little series of my 5 slices..

It was a most exciting project, that started with simply trying out new resin, took off by itself, and developed into nice display on the history of that great ship.

Already longer finished was the rigged version of a 1805 first rate.

Now come the version as build from about 1780, the actual state of my research for the iconic 1805 version, the black and white version of past 1910 and the latest version of the museums ship in its past 2016 look.

Here the overview.

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Travelling times in 4 pictures :-)

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We start with the beauty of the as build version, with its nice friezes and - not visible - the wonderful carvings on head and stern.

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The best known version is the least known by far. Done under pressure of time there is no known documentation. Here shown is the intermediate result of my research so far.

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The biggest changes were suffered from 1814 on to 1920. The planking was removed and the new one was flush without any wales. The bow was reconstructed as a round bow, the hammocks got build cases and the masts were replaced by smaller steel ones with a reduced number of shrouds.

Seen by todays eyes a pity but still the historical version that lasted the longest.

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And of course the version that is the best known, the almost complete reconstruction in Portsmouth ;-)
Even with many anachronisms and differences to contemporary sources, this ship gives a nice impression onto how ships may have looked in the old days, a pleasure to be there and see :-)

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XXXDAn
Author:  JIM BAUMANN [ Thu Dec 31, 2020 5:31 am ]
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very very beautifully presented!

indeed--it was a bit of a distraction from the main mission, and yet it has been instructive to you and just about everyone!

and what a project!!

I now look forward to seeing the completion of the main meal.... in due ( -decade or so ) course !
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PERSONALLY-- call me a heretic... :big_grin:

I actually have always liked the black and white Victorian/Edwardian version-

( also--sort of ....the " ..... conservation..... " period)

- despite the reduced rig - the no-compromise dead straight lines and stark coldness of the back and white excite me !

maybe because I am spoilt and the ship lies just down the road from me...and is very familiar,

maybe because I like the juxtaposition of the pre-and-post Dreadnoughts circling her whilst she was lying in Portsmouth Harbour...

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