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PostPosted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 3:53 pm 
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Chinese cruiser 1. chinese-japan war.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 7:45 pm 
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Hey, that's really cool. Nice work!

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Absolutely inspiring!

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2017 2:58 pm 
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Nice to see someone building this one.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 11:29 am 
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Thanks for all the good replies, It is good to see that you like my work.
To Pieter. And 14 kits Beijing fleet ships still await me from this firm.


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 9:11 am 
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Nice! Also the small diorama is great!

I also have that kit and a lot of other by Oceanmoon from that period.

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As you guys are also adding Ocean Moon kits to the stash and actually build list, does anyone of you know which ship is represented by the kit of Yi Hsien? It looks like a gunboat, it is supposed to have been built by the Foochow Arsenal but all of my internet searches and my trawl through "Chinese Steam navy" by Richard Wright came up with zero results.


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2017 1:39 pm 
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According to Sino-French Naval War 1884-1885 by Piotr Olender this ship was built in 1876, has a displacement of 260 t and three guns (unknown type).

Wright calls her I-hsin and a dispatch vessel. She fought at Foochow in 1884, more precisely she managed to retreat up-river.

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Besides what wrote maxim, there is a bit written in the Chinese Steam navy too. Sadly I can not look it up right now,I will have access to the book onlyvon saturday.


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2017 3:06 pm 
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Thanks for looking her up. The model in the kit is a 5 gunned screw brig though and not the paddle steamer Wright mentions in the book.


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According to "Imperial Chinese Navy Ships, 1855-1911" (a Chinese-language publication by Guong Chun published in Hong Kong 2013), Yixin (or Yi-hsing) was a shallow draught wooden gunboat launched 4 June 1875 at Fuzhou Navy Yard and commissioned 28 March 1876. 38 metres long, 5.44 metres beam, 2.43 metres draught, 245 tons. Its 200 hp engine drove a single screw for a maximum speed of 10 knots. Armament: 1 x 20-pdr on a pivoting slide mount, 2 x 9 pounders on broadside carriages, 2 x 6 pounders on broadside carriages.

Yixin, commanded by Lin Tse-yu, was part of the main group of the Chinese fleet at the Battle of Fuzhou (23 August 1884) and was one of only two ships in the entire fleet to survive the action (the other was the armed transport Fupo). Yixin was broken up in 1891.

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I would not rely too heavily on Wright's book. He misses quite a bit of information and occasionally misreads his sources, too. If you want a useful English-language study with an very helpful bibliography, try John L. Rawlinson, China's Struggle for Naval Development 1839-1895, published by Harvard University Press in 1967. It's not perfect (what is?) but it's well worth reading.

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A very handsome model of an attractive ship !!

==> not often seen in model form are ships of this navy

Kudos for 'lateral' thought building!

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maurice de saxe wrote:
According to "Imperial Chinese Navy Ships, 1855-1911" (a Chinese-language publication by Guong Chun published in Hong Kong 2013)

Where is it possible to get that book? Does it contain good drawings?

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I don't know - I bought my copy in Hong Kong. I may be able to find the receipt information and let you know.

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Hey Lars

there is a selection of these books for sale on abe-books

https://www.abebooks.co.uk/servlet/Sear ... &kn=&isbn=


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 5:38 pm 
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Lars

It has broadside and deck view drawings of most of the vessels described and a large array of photographs, too (most of which I've never seen anywhere else).

Here is a link to a 2015 edition (different cover from my copy) for sale on Amazon from a store in Shanghai:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/7545811542/ref=tmm_other_meta_binding_new_olp_sr?ie=UTF8&condition=new&qid=1512685685&sr=1-1

If you want to read the book, you will have to brush up your Chinese. The author is from Hong Kong, so my edition uses the old-style characters, not the mainland's simplified characters. I don't know what is used in the 2015 edition in this listing.

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Thank you very much Jim and Maurice for the links!

Unfortunately I know only very few Chinese words (谢谢!), but there are increasingly good translation software on smartphones, so that at least shorter parts of the text and figure legends can be read. Drawings and photos are the most important part, it should be possible to identify the name.

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