Many thanks guys!
Chris Meddings wrote:
... so I can rip off, or I mean study your ideas
Please do Chris! It is the best compliment you could give me, and I know I'm constantly ripping off, I mean being inspired by, other modelers too!
Jabberwock wrote:
Sorry Marijn and I may be wrong, please don't take this as criticism and I hate to say this, but, in the first photo of the last lot of photos, should the streaks not be vertical to the waterline rather than the hull?
If you compare that image with the 3rd photo and the third from last, the streaks coming off the platform support and the holes appear correct to the eye, vertical to the water.
Cheers, Jabb
No need to apologize Jabb! Constructive comments like this is what I need more!
And you spotted this very well indeed.
To be honest, I have considered this, but visually balancing it has been difficult.
On the decks, it was simple. Since they were horizontal when the ship was floating upright, streaks could have only formed after the ship had capsized. Therefore, on the flight deck, AA-platforms, etc., I painted every streak perpendicular to the waterline.
On the sides of the hull, it was not so simple, as the historic photos show mostly streaking perpendicular to the hull.
The big dirty streak coming from the shute on this (cropped) pic (left red circle) obviously has formed before the ship capsized, as it stops on the dirty waterline mark which formed when the ship was upright. But also towards the right, dirty and rusty streaks are visible that are perpendicular to the hull plating and not the waterline.
On this B&W photo, also streaking is visible around the stack sponson that is perpendicular to the hull:
I can only assume this streaking had already formed when the ship was still upright.
The antifouling red shows a lot of sun-bleaching in that thin strip above the dirty waterline mark, so I guess enough time has passed for the elements to have quite an effect on the ship before it capsized and sank.
0n the other hand, it is only logical that some extra streaking must have formed after the ship capsized too.
I see less of this in the historic photos, but here it is pretty visible:
The visual balance on the model becomes difficult however when I would like to do both on the same spot. Streaks in two different directions would look pretty weird…
So I decided to follow the general idea of what I could see on the photos: mostly perpendicular to the hull, but in a couple of spots (like on that third photo from the last) perpendicular to the waterline.
But to be honest I'm also feeling in doubt about this. As it is hard to judge the final 'feel' of it on photo,I'll ask some advice from the guys in my club when I show it to them in the flesh. But please give your opinion too if you like!
Thanks for starting up a very interesting discussion Jabb!
Cheers,
Marijn