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PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2016 5:07 pm 
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Back-tracking in the build sequence chronology slightly....

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After I had ground away all the solid resin on the spar deck--including the solid fwd and aft decks ( as they should have been planked not flat )

I needed to replace the decks. However as the bulwarks were the correct height in relation to the rest of the ship, I could not simply 'plonk' evergreen styrene on top of the ledges remaining .... and I did not feel confident in my abilities to lower the existing deck ledge height without damaging or even scarring / breaking entirely the delicate bulwarks...

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So I concocted a- I think- acceptable compromise. :wave_1:

I cut some new decking of Evergreen planked styrene sheet and marked a line inboard of the landing surfaces of my somewhat freestyle cut ledges

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The paring with a blade was tortuous affair--as the styrene often failed at the planking grooves

so I had a practice at paring away to a wafer thinness before I cut a deck for real. ( successfully!)

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Even this I managed to do twice though my own lack of observation... :doh_1: :Oops_1:

The upper bridge platforms were planked across the vessel rather than the usual fore-and-aft orientation

however these deck levels were still planked fore/aft...

My folly is pictured below :cool_2:

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At least hereafter I was practised (!! ) and in a much shorter time than before ..
I was able to make two more decks with the planking running correctly.

When I added the decks and temporarily placed a 1/700 PE figure I reckoned that the deck should still be just under one millimetre lower...
( the resin deck was too high in the first place I think )

I decided to pare the deck ledge away --but at an angle inwards- very carefully indeed with tight lips and bated breath (!!) and successfully managed not to damage the bulwarks ( not noticeably so..-after a small repair! :big_grin: )

I then used some 1500 grit emery paper to add a chamfer to the underside of the already wafer-thin deck-edge to hopefully match the chamfered edge of the ledge...

It looks like it worked!

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...whilst awaiting the drying of varnish and paint - I made and cut the walkways for the boat-decks; these were made of paper, painted and once dry pressed between many heavy books for two weeks.

I also added the white decal strip to the funnel-cowl housing and generator rooms etc

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I plan on mounting the ship at sea shortly--which will make the handling of the now delicate surfaces much easier!

...more soon!

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Well done, Jim! :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:




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hello all!

there is tangible--if slow progress...

I mounted the ship so as to make it easier to hold and less susceptible to damage

Having detected a minute bit of warping fore and aft-- I used my usual methodology

(described in step-by-step in detail here )

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and mounted the ship to a stainless steel plate to inhibit future movement--
there no point worrying about the fine details if the hull sheerline changes !!! :Mad_6:

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I made the water also in the my usual way using artists watercolour paper over cocktail sticks and then soaked in CA glue to make it rigid and impervious to moisture

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I placed the main structures( funnel base and generator room) onto the spar deck base and added the missing small hatches and skylights

( A B C D )

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a while back I bought of e-bay a kit of HMS Mars (for the PE ) from a previously unknown-to-me manufacturer ( SS Models - China )



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The PE whilst simple - appears to be partially usable--in particular the flying bridge decks and the pilot houses--the remainder I shall discard or scratchbuild

The hull and parts are a fairly obvious re-cast of the Combrig kit-with some parts assembled for the mould

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- interestingly everything is about 5% smaller ( pointing to a cast of a kit = submaster etc.... )

Now comes the more interesting part to me, small details...

I installed the supporting posts under the boat decks, and have made a start on the very complex boast skid framework.


I am guided here partially by the drawings in the plans as well as some photos of the excellent large scale( 1:96 ) model by maestro Brian King

herewith some images of the staus quo


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... really busy at midship :thumbs_up_1: , I like how you kept the sharp demarcation between the different colors

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Ciao Dino! :wave_1:

The well -deck boatskids were both more time consuming and fiddly than I thought

...the more I looked--the more there was to add !

here is about where I stopped--

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on the real ship these skids were I section beams-

-but failing some custom double-sided photoetch....

.... styrene strip would suffice.

By the time it is all covered in boats the latticework of the boat supports will only be viable in vignetted glimpses

fortunately it also seems that the imperfections of my styrene construct will be --phew!-- obscured by the boats... :cool_2:

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as a bit of light relief I added the 4 x overside discharge pipes and the midships gash chute

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these were only slightly complicated by being curved at the lower edges to comply with tumblehome of the hull and a kink at weather deck level

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I added the slightly raised boat deck walkways

herewith an image of the real thing-

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previously made of paper and pressed flat under heavy books for 2 weeks :big_grin:

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I started to REALLY look at the vents-- most of the kit items are usable--but some are distinctly undersized.

to remedy this I reshaped the back of some plastic vents from a spare sprue ( Seals models IJN cruiser )

and the hollowed them out.-( they were quite crude really)

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these I think are dimensionally just about right for the lower fwd superstructure

The first 3 units of the Majestic class were on the face of it near identical...
and yet they differed so very much in the minutia; surprisingly as each ship had slightly differing paint schemes...

I have now settled that I am building--for better or worse-- HMS Magnificent - as in 1895/6 :big_grin:
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HMS Magnificent for example was the only member of the class as far as I can ascertain that had cut-outs in the fwd superstructure wall for the vents

( which seems to assist me in identifying some mis-captioned photos !!

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as seen here...

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The aftt superstructure was also getting some attention...

having hollowed out all the solid cast well deck-- the aft vent shafts bases of course would now be visible

of course the kits vents were far too short-( as they were intended to sit on the solid block)

-so I installed some appropriate size styrene rod

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endless staring at old photos always produces more stuff to do....

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more progress soon!


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and now I noticed--on the NMM plan that I need to add some big winches as well as more skylights...

( under the boat skid beams ..)

ho hum...

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Sharp work, Jim. Really love your attention to detail.

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Another masterpiece in the works! :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:





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Fantastic work!!! :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:

Many thanks for the detailed build log; very educational as always!

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Very niced looking model from the period when Britannia really ruled the waves...
Most elegant paintwork superbly executed.
Stunningly elaborate boat deck latticework.
A true joy to behold!


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Thank you for your kind words gentlemen.!
Progress has been solid -- if not swift--whilst getting bogged down in the minutia... ( as ever! )

after 'discovering' the winches and the skylight on the plan--they were duly made of styrene , drilled and painted.

The winches were cobbled together of small bits of brass and resin scraps--both were added with some degree of difficulty (!)
to the well-deck through the delicate lattice-work of the boats support structure

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The boat decks had the hatches added-made of decal strip --so as to keep a low profile once painted --as I believe the hatches were actually inset near flush on the real ship
( source- Brian Kings model )

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an omission that had been bothering me for a while-- but I thought it would be ok..( ha! )
were the distinctive boarding steps fwd, midships and aft-

....this uneasy feeling became all the more glaring an omission (! ) after I studied Bill Livingstone's steps on his 1893 HMS Hood model ...

viewtopic.php?f=59&t=66011&hilit=hood+bill&start=0#p380804

Of course these would have been easier to install BEFORE I installed the model in its sea... ( plan ahead ! ) :Mad_6: :doh_1:

Hey ho...--I practised on the under-scale casting from the Chinese kit ( which oddly had some PE ladders glued onto the master--
which whilst fairly correctly located -- did not look at all convincing

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I used stretched black sprue for the steps and matt varnish as the adhesive as it allowed me a lot of wriggle time to try and square up the steps... ( mostly successful )

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the end result is not as razor sharp as I would like--but in the melee of boat booms, hatches and rigging they ought just about to pass muster--apart from when subjected to huge enlargement on the PC screen!

--though making six sets was enough to try my patience

The steps on the real ship are not all the same size either--varying in width considerably

( not just my sloppiness! )

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Extended study of photos of the ship showed there to be 'texture' on the upper edges of the superstructure splintershields/bulwarks which when viewed really closely revealed itself to be a small beading on the fwd and aft splintershields

I added this using thin copper wire ( soft ) in situ, overlength and snipped with sharp scissors --when painted it gave a pleasing look akin to the real ship

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for some light relief (!) I made the aft flying deck of multiple pieces of brass and glue ( which will be mounted on the masts a few stages further down the build )

The resin supplied kit item was the right size in planview--but had solid resin ' railing' and was of course far too thick in every dimension

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Back to more current progress--these ships had a gargantuan sternwalk at the stern

I made the platform floor using brass PE fret scrap and cut the two halves,joined in the centre with a glued brass fillet

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The giant slot in the hull ( intended for the insertion of the the rather thick resin sternwalk deck ) was too large for my thin brass deck.
after I attached the stern walk the gap was filled by running a black decal strip over the gap and blended in with paint

Under the sternwalk were 2 x hawsepipes ( sealed with lids ) and a horizontally stowed anchor each side.

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The hawse pipe-lids were filed up our of brass with some small brass detail ( old gunsights)
I used some very old Toms anchors which before painting had some texture added
( not seen yet in photo )

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The roof of the stern walk was made of paper--the distinctive hanging pelmet was formed in situ using some flame softened thin brass strip (old 1/350 PE rigging cable :cool_2: !! )

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where it rejoined the hull I left a small gap ( my paper cutting was not that good ! ) which was infilled with white glue as in this job it is self levelling

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Once painted it looked pretty sharp-- I will add a bit of texture with watercolour should have it looking much like the real thing in the photo

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The very distinctive railing ...

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I had one small piece of left over WEM Iron Duke PE which contains a piece of very fine most suitable railing..

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alas it is too short--fortunately after contacting Richard Harden ( Toms modelworks and the 'new' White Ensign Models ) 2 x new WEM Iron Duke frets are en-route from the USA to the UK...
( better to have tow of the same matching 'vintage' etch than mix my 10 plus year old with new--maybe minute differentials so would not be a perfect not a match when joining ...

with two new railing sections I can splice them together to give the required length-- phew!


the torpedo net shelf on this vessel is not continuous..- it has gaps within to allow the net booms to stow... this took some working out as both of the plans I have are far from helpful or conclusive-- the spacing of the booms and a few oblique photos gave me some of the answers

the shelves themselves are not solid--but rather a lattice type construction ( water drain , strength etc )

I used some textured narrow strips of PE ( old l'Arsenal Liberty ship 1/350 PE ) cut up and installed - guided by the boom angles/ positions and photos
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The net booms were made of drawn brass wire dipped in a small puddle of white glue when half set this was flattened to give the impression of the re-enforced mounting plates -- the stand-offs for the booms were small slivers of styrene

The model is at last starting to come together...

Next gargantuan ( seemingly never ending task ) will be the making of the myriad of small boats and launches, mounting these on their cradles

before the real ' fun' :scratch: :eyes_spinning: (!??!! ) begins

making and installing all the bridge and pilot house decks foer and aft on their spindly supporting legs


more soon


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more tangible progress- ........albeit still only small bites....

The turrets are pretty good in outline--however theywere missing the 'gun barrel housing aperture flare'

so as gain greater elevation the main turrets had an enlarged opening at the top edge line of the turret

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I made this with a small wire former which was then backfilled with white glue to create the small 'bulge' on top of the turret

an odd thing I noticed was that within months it seems certain quite major features of the ship seemed to either change location--or the paintwork was altered-- even when the ship carried the same colour scheme layout--

case in point-the shoring strake ( a belt of I presum timber steel to prevent the wooden shoring posts--when vessel was drydocked to locate sideways and -from slipping upwards

in one photo this strake is above the white waterline--in another the strake is below...?!--

so what moved--the paint or the strake? :scratch:

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I made a simulation on the model using small brass strips-below the white line--these will only really become apparent when I finished the sea as the edges of the strake will create a small amount of spray as the vessel moves through the water

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next I turned my attention to getting the bridge end underway

I used some of the PE set that came with the Chinese version of the Kombrig kit for the bridge house windows

I started by installing some of the supporting structure under the bridge deck --which was securely sitting halfway up the mast on a tiny blob of blue tack :cool_2:

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small companionways were fiddled in place--as was some railing


the distinctive curved outer bridge wing supports were added from bent brass strip --as was the small cruciform between the outer uprights

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the one piece handrails (no vertical intermediate supports) for the 2 x stairs on the fwd face

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next in the firing line were some of the huge boat complement the ship carried...

the launches first had 'timber ' rubbing strakes added of stretched sprue

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The pulling boats and whalers had the upper planks that were left varnished- represented by using a thin strip of decal striping

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it looks sharper than I could manage to paint anyway!

I added a bit of contrast and depth to the benches by dragging a pencil along the edges of the thwarts

Once the oars are in place it does give the boats a bit more visual depth


The launches of the RN in those decorative days had the distinctive polished brass funnels with flared tops


I used some brass micro tubing and flared the ends with the use of a pushpin in a pin-chuck and revolved at ever decreasing angles to obtain a subtle flare

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I made the saloon windows with tiny chips of black decal stripe and used a pushpin to make the portlights



once installed it looked OK to my eyes-

alas these big enlargements always make small boats look too crude...

in 1/1 scale viewing it all looks pretty good !


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still have seven more whalers to do... (!!)


arghh!


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Truly a remarkable, informative build, Jim! :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1: You are a heckuva teacher! :cool_2:





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Amazing work Jim! :worship_1:
That bridge looks fantastic, as do the boats.

Good to see you make good progress, and thanks for the detailed SBS. Always very educational!

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Wowza!

Outstanding skills and uncompromising dedication to the best quality achievable - this is truly remarkable and a very rich source for helpful hints and tips.

Thanks for sharing your work from

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 25, 2016 5:08 pm 
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Jim,

I love you work and have learned much from you as I have ventured back into building after years in exile. Is the circular metal walkway that is on the decking around the turrets some type of flash protector for the decking? Visible in your photo from the Tue Jan 26, 2016 1:11 pm Post. I am getting ready to Start Iowa BB$ and I have photos of her both with and without them.

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apologies for delayed response....

-I believe the circular metal plating is anti-flash on the wooden decks...

meanwhile... progress is slow--as real life in 1:1 scale keeps getting in the way-- ( Business. family, classic cars--and just getting tired in the evening as one gets older!!! )

nevertheless...

there has been some progress
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The fwd bridge platform has the bridge extensions added as rail only--and the 'floor' spanned from underneath with CA glue ( hard and stiff )

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The fwd bride-deck was furnished with helmsman at the wheel, binnacle, crew , voice pipes etc etc

alas I neglected to photograph it all BEFORE the wheelhouse roof/ deck went on .. and now it is virtually invisible without a ( very small! ) endoscope....(!!)

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but it does man that the wheelhouse does not look empty....



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hmnnn!

meanwhile I made a start on the aft lower flying bridge-- carefully applying rails( cut and shut symmetrically)

so as to ensure I always had stanchions on the corners.

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then I painted and thereafter applied the 'canvas' dodgers

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with the white glue drying clear a pleasing effect is obtained when paint is applied on the outside of the glue dodgers--the inner rails have a bit of contrast.

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meanwhile I had prepared some of the supports for the aft bridge deck-- the plate metal upright with the oval hole - as on real ship below

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was gleaned from an older stainless-steel GMM IJN PE set

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installed it looked ok....

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after installation the remaining uprights ( cut from brass 1/350 longitudinal handrails) were installed- white glue at base and when upright at last CA at both ends applied with a (discarded) cat whisker--stiff but very soft springy...

the curved supports at the outer ends were made in a similar fashion

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--with very much checking for symmetry and upright beforehand!

the ship is starting to look "shippier..."


more soon !


Jim Baumann


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Very impressive, elegant bridges! Especially the supports of the bridge wings!

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JIM BAUMANN wrote:
meanwhile I had prepared some of the supports for the aft bridge deck-- the plate metal upright with the oval hole -


was gleaned from an older stainless-steel GMM IJN PE set


Brilliant work (as always). Very clever solution!

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