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Author: | ArizonaBB39 [ Fri Apr 01, 2016 11:57 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: 1/200 Arizona to Pennsylvania Conversion |
I'd definitely be interested in such drawings. I'll have to check out that CD Mark mentioned. |
Author: | gott_cha [ Fri Apr 01, 2016 12:36 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 1/200 Arizona to Pennsylvania Conversion |
Abram, it's a good CD,..just got my copy on Monday and it will be a good reference tool What I'm having problems obtaining are photos and drawings of the Mare Island early 42 refit . Most major structures are the same as what she had on 7 Dec 41,...but there are/ were various changes made such as Gun shields,...boat arrangement, Radar,..gun tubs added around the main mast and a large square/rectangle platform/tower with Air Defense 20 mm's built up around the STACK. NavSource and the CD have a few pics of these changes , but nothing in great detail. Hopefully I can find drawings of these changes but so far I have turned up nothing ...could be they no longer exist or that they are looked away some place in an obscure vault forgotten about after all these years..... If anyone has suggestions on that I'm open for it. Hank@ Yes that would be great if you could do that! Mark@ If Stephen could get the drawings and dimensions of the "clover leaf" for a printed subject, I'm sure would be a great benefit...the rest as far as height and spread could then logically be worked out from that. That is if You and He are open to it. Mark |
Author: | ModelMonkey [ Fri Apr 01, 2016 3:42 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 1/200 Arizona to Pennsylvania Conversion |
I'm game. I can design a 3D printed cloverleaf from Chesley's drawings and Mark's experience with the kit. Normally, 2D drawings of a quality that at least matches Booklet of General Plans drawings are needed to make a quality 3D design. But we just don't have anything more authoritative at present. Surely, the Pennsy experts here can come to a "best consensus" on a cloverleaf design for the 1/200 kit. I'll produce that. Rescaling to 1/350 and 1/700 from that design can be problematic for some modelers. A part that fits one kit in one scale then rescaled for other kits is likely to have to be adapted by the 1/350 and 1/700 modeler to fit well. |
Author: | BB62vet [ Fri Apr 01, 2016 6:14 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 1/200 Arizona to Pennsylvania Conversion |
Mark, Really looking good! I think your approach to this conversion is working well. I'll email both you and Steve re. the Main Mast stuff. Hank |
Author: | Channell [ Fri Apr 01, 2016 6:38 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 1/200 Arizona to Pennsylvania Conversion |
Oh yeah, looking very good so far Mark! I know I shouldn't be one to talk when it comes to spending too much on builds but damn, that Pennsy looks expensive already! |
Author: | BB62vet [ Fri Apr 01, 2016 6:53 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 1/200 Arizona to Pennsylvania Conversion |
Channell wrote: Quote: I know I shouldn't be one to talk when it comes to spending too much on builds but damn, that Pennsy looks expensive already! Looks ARE deceiving, it's way past "expensive" ....but all things are relative. I have a list, but never bothered adding it up Hank |
Author: | Mgunns [ Fri Apr 01, 2016 7:58 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 1/200 Arizona to Pennsylvania Conversion |
Channell wrote: Oh yeah, looking very good so far Mark! I know I shouldn't be one to talk when it comes to spending too much on builds but damn, that Pennsy looks expensive already! It hasn't quite reached the "Tehnoart" Indianapolis.........................Yet! |
Author: | Mgunns [ Fri Apr 01, 2016 7:59 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 1/200 Arizona to Pennsylvania Conversion |
BB62vet wrote: Mark, Really looking good! I think your approach to this conversion is working well. I'll email both you and Steve re. the Main Mast stuff. Hank Thanks Hank: It's coming along at a nice pace. A little tweaking and I will be ready for paint and to move on. |
Author: | Channell [ Fri Apr 01, 2016 8:43 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 1/200 Arizona to Pennsylvania Conversion |
Mgunns wrote: Channell wrote: It hasn't quite reached the "Tehnoart" Indianapolis.........................Yet! ...and I'm not done collecting for it either. Race ya to bankruptcy? It worked for countries in the 30's-40's... well, a couple of 'em, anyway. |
Author: | Channell [ Fri Apr 01, 2016 8:53 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 1/200 Arizona to Pennsylvania Conversion |
BB62vet wrote: Channell wrote: Quote: I know I shouldn't be one to talk when it comes to spending too much on builds but damn, that Pennsy looks expensive already! Looks ARE deceiving, it's way past "expensive" ....but all things are relative. I have a list, but never bothered adding it up Hank Yeah... the way I figure it, big builds should be counted not by the total $$$ spent on a single ship but by the "smiles per hour" ( or is it hours of smiles?) you get from it. Looks like you guys will not be short-changed in the end! |
Author: | BB62vet [ Fri Apr 01, 2016 10:07 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 1/200 Arizona to Pennsylvania Conversion |
Channell wrote: Quote: Yeah... the way I figure it, big builds should be counted not by the total $$$ spent on a single ship but by the "smiles per hour" ( or is it hours of smiles?) you get from it. Looks like you guys will not be short-changed in the end! Well, Jason - count yourself amongst us - your various 1/200 builds will someday (as will ours) come full circle. Hank |
Author: | Dan K [ Sat Apr 02, 2016 6:54 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: 1/200 Arizona to Pennsylvania Conversion |
Great work on that mainmast. |
Author: | ArizonaBB39 [ Fri Apr 08, 2016 8:55 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 1/200 Arizona to Pennsylvania Conversion |
Excellent work Mark, I always enjoy your updates. |
Author: | BB62vet [ Sat Apr 09, 2016 3:10 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 1/200 Arizona to Pennsylvania Conversion |
Mark, OUTSTANDING, my friend!!! Thanks also for pointing out which of the PE sheets work best for this modification. As I've got the CAD drawing pretty well underway, it is amazing to see how close we are on the layout of the platforms without knowing it. I'm glad you are leading the way on this as it will help me later when I get to this part of my build. Even using the 1935 PENNSY Chesley plans to go by, they are still somewhat vague in details of the lower platforms hidden by those above. Before I closed out the CAD file Friday, I had just laid out the Searchlight Platform on the Elevation drawing and while mine will reflect a somewhat earlier period, the basic shape is the same. I hope to have something to print (and post) perhaps next weekend when I'm able to access the forum again. Of course, this drawing will have to be rectified with your templates as I'm quite sure the model is not 100% interchangeable with the plans (if it IS, I will be very surprised!). I also discovered I had already on hand the Eduard PE sets #4 & #6 (Main Top & Superstructure) when this order came in this week, but that's ok - I'm sure the parts will come in handy. It will really be interesting to see the entire mast all together as one unit. Hank |
Author: | gott_cha [ Sun Apr 10, 2016 7:30 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: 1/200 Arizona to Pennsylvania Conversion |
Coming along nicely Mark. And I agree with Hank, can't wait to see the mast completed. PS has Bob's Buckles moved his web site?.....when I open his link it claims the domain is closed, site no longer available |
Author: | Mgunns [ Sun Apr 10, 2016 12:53 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 1/200 Arizona to Pennsylvania Conversion |
Thanks Hank and Mark for checking it out. It is almost completed and I will post some pictures when it is all painted and finished. I just checked the Bob's Buckles site and it worked for me: http://www.bobsbuckles.co.uk/ Let me know |
Author: | ArizonaBB39 [ Mon Apr 11, 2016 8:23 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 1/200 Arizona to Pennsylvania Conversion |
Excellent work! I never noticed how different the main mast was from the Arizona's. I always assumed they were the same. Your build is inspiring and a great help for me on mine. Hopefully after this pay day I'll have a little money in my model fund to buy some odds and ends I need to continue on my build. Keep up the great work, your build is one of my main references |
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