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 Post subject: Re: Marceau - Heller
PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2018 6:04 am 
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now the steps done to do it


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 Post subject: Re: Marceau - Heller
PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2018 6:05 am 
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and 4 posted on the ship...next step...assemble fully the guns and paint


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 Post subject: Re: Marceau - Heller
PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2018 6:19 am 
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Triumph68 wrote:
DavidP wrote:
Modernizations: 1950: - 6 x 2 - 37/69, 2 x 1 - 37/57, 1 x 4 - 20/65, 2 x 2 - 20/65; + 8 x 1 - 40/60 Mk 3, US-made radar
http://www.navypedia.org/ships/france/fr_dd_marceau.htm
can get American 20mm aa guns from this link http://www.3dmodelparts.com/1-429-singl ... nt-12-pcs/
& quad 40mm bofors http://www.3dmodelparts.com/1-426-quadr ... lds-8-pcs/ that the guns can be cut apart carefully to use the single barrels.
I just bought recently from that site 110 quad 40mm bofors & about 432 single 20mm aa guns in which some of the 20mm guns will be used on my 8 modified Heller Type 47 Surcouf Class Destroyers plus other Heller coldwar French warships.


I just bought some of their guns...
2X Single 20-mm Oerlikon Cannons (Pedestal Mount) - 12 pcs
1X Quadruple 40-mm Bofors Autocannons (no shields)- 8 pcs
1X 3-inch/50 Caliber Guns - (6 pcs)
1X 5-inch 25-Caliber Guns (10 pcs)

post just delivered them....they are to my view better quality than the arsenal...realy nice and finely detailed and less cutting/cleaning to do


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 Post subject: Re: Marceau - Heller
PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2018 9:02 am 
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not yet paint...but gun glued on metal base ....not sure I'm gonna keep the 2 targeters on the barrel...they look out of size
this is how it is on the build sceme of arsenal...maybe placing them lower gives better effect ...below the front protection.


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 Post subject: Re: Marceau - Heller
PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2018 10:06 am 
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here a little result...know they are not yet fixed...too fragile and I have some more railing work to do...but it gives what it will be


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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2018 12:01 pm 
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the forward guntubs did not have solid walls but appears to be a screen as you can see thru it somewhat.


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 Post subject: Re: Marceau - Heller
PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2018 12:52 pm 
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DavidP wrote:
the forward guntubs did not have solid walls but appears to be a screen as you can see thru it somewhat.

yes, as I said earlier...if I'd do another Marceau...I'd probably lime those walls off.

about the 40MM guns on real Marceau....is probably a screen fixed on the gun higher up...without floor....for me impossible to fix on the guns...too small...the way I did... gives me the best option.
its way less imposing than basic kit, I can still handle it....and it looks ...to me quite alright...way better than the original heller guns...thats for sure

anyway...I'm pretty pleased with the actual result...after all this is for me a learning ship...I know already my next warf....Heller's Admiral Scheer
even though its not over yet...still have to fix more railings, mast and rigs.... name...etc ...small things...but they make a difference.

have I given you the interest of modifying yours like I did?


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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2018 1:59 pm 
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i'll be doing my eventually but currently kitbashing hull #10 using Revell's 1/429 scale USS Arizona of 18 hulls to do bb42 USS Idaho with the other hulls representing bb32 Wyoming to bb48 West Virgina plus bb49 USS South Dakota & AG128 USS Mississippi as a training ship late 40's early 50's.


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a little advance..now pic with mast...its starting to look like a real ship


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 Post subject: Re: Marceau - Heller
PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2018 1:35 pm 
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I find this small boat...say very simple...I already cut the bord so opening is wider...now...thingking how I'm gonna modify it to make it resemble the real one stored on starboard


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 Post subject: Re: Marceau - Heller
PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2018 8:15 am 
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looks already way better...as I didn't find immages of real one...I let my immagination do its work..actualy I took the Venise taxi's as example
think I'm gonna ad a deck window upfront so we have a small font cabin and a rear protected shelter space for transport of VIP's (after all..its about 9m long ..so should be ok)
then...its paint...probably gonna do it full white...any advice?


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2018 9:15 am 
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is that a French launch or German used by the French?


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DavidP wrote:
is that a French launch or German used by the French?


its a....mine design lol


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2018 11:57 am 
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it is a "me" design as mines go off with a boom.


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 Post subject: Re: Marceau - Heller
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DavidP wrote:
it is a "me" design as mines go off with a boom.

true...but did it that way on purpose... to say "its mine"...and ...it rimes


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ok...all silly stuff to the side...this photo make is what I had in mind


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2018 5:46 am 
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but I just found this pic...the window base and hull struckture looks much like whats in heller kid


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this starboard picture is only one I found...and its a bit flue...but I'm afraid if I keep my modification...its not according real.....dilemma


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and this is when she was Z31


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 Post subject: Re: Marceau - Heller
PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2018 9:32 am 
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I do need to stop at a certain point...but a front screen ...I thought is a must


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