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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2018 7:18 am 
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found some stuff to put on ...I say the arado is finished for me


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2018 1:27 pm 
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I like showing how I work....might help others...or some might give me advice how to do better..
railings...I bend..then paint...then glue on
my forward castle is getting on...railings bend and paint...double AA gun build and paint..tomorow..fixing

not sur yet if those double guns are ok though...they seem to be correct...need 4


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2018 1:59 pm 
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as shown in this black and white picture...I chose to close the 8 secondairy guns (heller kit has back fully open)


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2018 7:14 pm 
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notice the back of the gun mount in the photo is flat compared to yours that has 2 angled sides as part of the back?


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2018 12:14 am 
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That’s a tricky picture, the flat surface with the door is actually part of the ship’s superstructure and not the gun shield. The back of the guns didn’t have steel doors just a canvas cover which could be rolled upwards when not needed.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2018 12:19 am 
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Here you can see the door open (red arrow)
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2018 1:43 am 
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this picture is of graf spee...but where their secondairy guns not same?...I was convinced that the main guns and secondairy guns where all the same on the 3 Deutschland class troughout their life span and different modifications.... in this picture there are clearly doors...very confusing and not many good pictures around on that fact


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2018 2:27 am 
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This is Scheer:
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And another one. Of course these are peacetime photos and it's possible that steel doors were fitted later to Scheer too but I could'nt find any evidence to confirm or refute this. :scratch:


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2018 4:49 am 
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totally_random_man wrote:
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And another one. Of course these are peacetime photos and it's possible that steel doors were fitted later to Scheer too but I could'nt find any evidence to confirm or refute this. :scratch:

always hard with these stuff....well...my Scheer is end of war...I'll keep the steel doors...hoping they did fit them during the war lol


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2018 5:02 am 
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did also some scratch stuff...new rear AA gun platform and prepare platform for AA on main guns
might be I cut a little the sides of the protection shield on the rear one...its a bit crampy there

oh ..and railings front castle glued on...looks good


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2018 2:23 pm 
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some pieces to finish others ready to put on

that rear castle needs a serious upgrade to resemble the real thing


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2018 3:57 pm 
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Yes, Heller got it totally wrong


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2018 1:53 am 
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totally_random_man wrote:
Yes, Heller got it totally wrong

seeing the two pictures like that....yes whole stucture wrong..even the main guns are wrongly placed....but not gonna re-do structure....just improove it
on the rear castle...will be cutting antenna and ad the upper radar part...put windows, doors and such stuff
one day I might do a full scratchbuild...don feel ready for that yet
now thinking of it...I now see why I had the impression my rear AA platform looks too large...as the heller kit has that drop way further behind...its more narrow than the real one


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2018 10:24 am 
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Did my 2 main guns...looking good with added stuff

checked on a double gun I had made...realised I put barril upside down...changes the whole thing...PFFF...I'm a noob lol


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2018 9:08 am 
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main guns painted, double guns painted and posed...getting there


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2018 5:07 am 
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as I am a practical fellow...near every smaller AA gun...there should be a amunition reserve box ...no?
I find it hard to understand they would not do so...at least a minimum to start firering and where it is protected from the weather...
hard to find details on that...I guess it will be a little bit....my own logic thinking...btw...on previous picture you can see I added one ...for the single AA that will be close there...and partly also might contain the life jackets and other equipement for those handeling the gun


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2018 9:01 am 
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some more details-railings done...chimney almost done


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it appears the railings for the light aa guns on the turrets are solid not what you have & is possible the spare ammo is located on the inside of the gun tub walls.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2018 11:06 am 
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DavidP wrote:
it appears the railings for the light aa guns on the turrets are solid not what you have & is possible the spare ammo is located on the inside of the gun tub walls.

its hard to say...some modellers have indeed solid railing...but this picture made me choose not to...even if small size pic...you can clearly see the AA but not much railing.
If the railing where solid.....they should be clearly visuel even on this small size pic

another thing I remark when zooming in on the pic...the secondairy guns seem to have been modified with steel rear entrance...but ...I can't 100% confirm that

about the ammo...yes could be....but I doubt it has many rounds in that case


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