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Author:  Triumph68 [ Sat Nov 17, 2018 2:02 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: De Grasse Heller 1/400

and here with the german WWII minesweeper...also heller and scale 1/400 I did at same time and almost finished

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Author:  Triumph68 [ Sat Nov 17, 2018 3:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: De Grasse Heller 1/400

info for admins...this is build, might ad some pictures...but building is over

Author:  Triumph68 [ Thu Nov 22, 2018 6:34 am ]
Post subject:  Re: De Grasse Heller 1/400

my fleet has grown...its getting a strike force lol...and all goes in home made showcase...not much space left though

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Author:  Triumph68 [ Fri Jul 24, 2020 5:49 am ]
Post subject:  Re: De Grasse Heller 1/400

finaly put her on stands and fixed her properly

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Author:  Guest [ Mon Dec 27, 2021 6:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: De Grasse Heller 1/400

Triumph68 wrote:
this picture made me think something not in kit....
So I went looking in the plans of "la marine National" send to me from David p
got confirmation there...so...modification



That modification was only on the ship after her 1960 refit. Your model represents De Grasse as completed in September 1956 and up thru later 1959. In her fit from 1956 to late 59, she did not have that structure between her height finding radar pedestal and the 127 mm gun director stand.

Author:  Guest [ Mon Dec 27, 2021 9:05 pm ]
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DavidP wrote:
Guest, the date for the drawing showing that structure is 3.10 1956 Brest.



I’m wondering if the drawing is accurate. I say this because I have seen 1956 & 57’ photographs that clearly do not show this structure.

Author:  Guest [ Mon Dec 27, 2021 11:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: De Grasse Heller 1/400

Guest wrote:
DavidP wrote:
Guest, the date for the drawing showing that structure is 3.10 1956 Brest.



I’m wondering if the drawing is accurate. I say this because I have seen 1956 & 57’ photographs that clearly do not show this structure.


Also in the book French Cruisers 1922-1956 by John Jordan and Jean Moulin there is a photo on pg. 155 that clearly does not show this structure. That photo was taken just prior to commissioning in 1956. On pg. 156 there is a drawing based on DGA official plans dated 1957 Brest. That structure is also not in that plans drawing.

Author:  Guest [ Tue Jan 04, 2022 12:11 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: De Grasse Heller 1/400

DavidP wrote:
the date is hand printed not stamped so presume it is correct.


The drawing is not correct. I have found several detailed up close photographs taken from a August 57’ trip to Algiers. That structure is definitely not on De Grasse in this period. That was a modification done during her 1960 refit.

Author:  Guest [ Wed Jan 05, 2022 8:42 am ]
Post subject:  Re: De Grasse Heller 1/400

Guest wrote:
DavidP wrote:
the date is hand printed not stamped so presume it is correct.


The drawing is not correct. I have found several detailed up close photographs taken from a March 57’ trip to Algiers. That structure is definitely not on De Grasse in this period. That was a modification done during her 1960 refit.

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