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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2016 3:00 am 
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Hi all,

I'm for now painting a HMS Jervis portrait, as she was in the meditteranean sea in 1942, I did a search on this very forum, but didn't really find any coloured pic of her (seems logical, of course...) :big_grin:

The only books I have are with b/w pictures either.

hereby two versions of the painting, I'd like to know if I'm right or wrong:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Y0fCL ... h768-rw-no

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Fe_UF ... h768-rw-no

Many thnks for your inputs

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2016 10:51 am 
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According to Christopher Langtree The Kelly's (London: Chatham Publishing, 2002), JERVIS wore a two-colour disruptive pattern of AP507A (dark grey) and AP507C (light grey), from July 1940 until December (?) 1941, with a black stern section from September (?) 1940. She then wore the dark grey hull/light grey superstructure, with black bow and stern, until late 1942, after which the black sections were painted out. As a flotilla leader, she would have worn a broad black stripe at the top of her funnel, and, according to Alan Raven Camouflage Vol One: Royal Navy 1939-41 (New York: WR Press, 2000) she wore a single, narrower, blue band below that; there is a drawing of the camouflage pattern in that publication.

I've seen no evidence that she ever wore the pattern shown in the paintings, which resembles that worn by several ships of the "A" to "H" classes. The two white bands shown on the funnel were the markings of the 7th Destroyer Flotilla - JERVIS was flotilla leader of the 14th Destroyer Flotilla through the whole of 1942, so would have been unlikely to wear white bands.

I'd also suggest altering the after section, where there appear to be two gun mountings facing aft, and two gun barrels ahead of the mainmast. Jervis had one twin 4.7" mounting in "X" position on the after gundeck, and a single 4" HA mounting replacing the after set of torpedo tubes.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2016 1:38 pm 
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WOW!

Thank you for your answer, it becomes clearer in my mind.

I know the K and J were almost similar, do you think I may use HMS Kelly from Dean's Marine to get the details accurate for Jervis?

By the way, I'm painting right now Lucky Jervis because a belgian officer served as a RNR lieutenant on board, he served later in the BE Navy, to become Senior Officer of the Navy, his name was Daniel Geluyckens, he sadly passed away a few months ago, it is my kind of tribute to his memory, I met the guy a few times...

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By 1942, the 4" HA mounting had been removed, replaced by a torpedo tube mounting (although this may have been a quadruple mounting instead of the original pentad one). By April 1942, JERVIS had 4 single 20mm, as in the KELLY kit; prior to that, she had quadruple 0.5" mountings in the bridge wings, and no weapons (or gun platforms) abeam the searchlight. Otherwise, the Deans Marine kit should give a good basis for structural details of JERVIS in 1942.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2016 2:04 am 
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Thanks!

I'll study that and will put the results here...

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2016 12:38 pm 
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So, I guess this is how she (almost) looked in 1942:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ ... Kelvin.JPG

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