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PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 3:52 am 
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I built my Victory without the entry ports.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 2:51 pm 
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I've been admiring this fine build of the Heller 1/100 kit. I see the builder even included the training tackles on the guns as well as the recoil ropes.

http://hmsvictoryscalemodels.be/HellerU ... index.html

Did you use the kit sails on your model Chuck or did you replace them with cloth sails like this fellow did? Also his guns appear to be painted bronze. I thought by this period iron cannon was in full use?

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 11:14 pm 
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I also read on the H.M.S. Victory's website that the ratlines should be all natural hemp and not tarred. I always thought the vertical ropes were tarred, and only the horizontal ropes were left natural hemp. Also I see the dead eye rigging on the ship today is tarred, and I thought that was suppose to be natural hemp so the ratlines could be tightened or loosened as needed.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 4:29 pm 
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I built the model without sails. The vertical lines supporting the masts on either side are not ratlines. They are called shrouds. They were tarred to protect them against weather. Only the horizontal lines between them are called ratlines, they are not tarred because sailors had to run barefoot up and down on them.

The shroud deadeyes are probably painted, not tarred. The ropes that runs between the shroud deadeyes which are used to adjust the tightness of the shroud are not tarred.

In general, standing rigging - rigging whose sole purpose is to hold up the masts - is tarred. Running rigging - rigging whose purpose is to control the movement of yards and sails, to adjust the tightness of the standing rigging, and to enable sailors to walk on them - is not tarred.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 1:47 am 
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Thanks Chuck. I also have no intention of trying to decipher Heller's chaotic rigging instructions. Instead I will use the "Anatomy Of The Ship" volume on the Victory, and Revell's running rigging instructions for the 1/96 Constitution kit. Even though the number of sails on each mast is diffrent, Revell's instructions are far more clear and step by step to follow.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 12:46 pm 
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For a good looking rigging, you really need some better references then the instructions that come with Heller or Revell kits.

Masting and Rigging of English Man of War is great. Anatomy of the Ship, HMS Victory is also very good.

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Thanks Chuck. I'm not picky about getting the rigging 100% historically accurate. I'm content as long as it looks right.

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Heller's instructions call for painting the rigging blocks black. I believe that is an error and they should be natural unfinished wood?

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I think I would go with wood. Don't know for sure though, what is 'correct'. You might go to the HMS Victory site to see how the museum ship was handled.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 9:03 am 
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Run an Internet image search using "blocks" and "rigging" and you'll find lots of examples of actual blocks. From photos and my research, it appears that blocks were natural wood with a protective coating (varnish, or something similar) for water-proofing. Over time, the blocks darken due to dirt. The typcial block seems to range from a golden-brown to a darker chocolate-brown. Good luck!

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Does the Panart 1/78 wooden kit of the Victory have pre-cut gun ports?

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 12:29 pm 
Hello,
I would like to buy HMS Victory Wood Kit for my husband as a gift, where would be a good place to start looking (I am located in Toronto Ontario)?
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 11:19 am 
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Victory 1765 has evolved somewhat since my last post, as you can see I'm still plugging away, and hope to finish her up soon.... thanks for looking.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 7:08 pm 
M.A.D wrote:
It's been awhile since my last post, but here's some updated progress pic's, and most is still in dry the dry fit stage, doesn't look like 2 years worth does it...enjoy.

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Thank you for the update ! What a terrific job you have done !


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 4:37 pm 
I am in the middle of building the H.M.S. Victory in 1/100 scale. Inow have a major problem that I need help with. I started to build the cannon and found that I am missing three of the number 4 trees. I have in the box 7 number 5tree parts, were there is only needed 4 of the number5 tree parts.As you can see, someone at Heller did not put the right number of the parts in this bag that held the connon. So needless to say I don't know how to get in touch with Heller to get the parts that I need. I have just retired 3 years ago and just got back in to the hobbie.I don;t know if it is correct in putting my e-mail up but I trust this site. fmaloney118 @ comcast.net I am hoping that I can get some help in getting the missing parts.Thank you for any help in this matter.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 6:16 pm 
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Heller was bought out by Hornby, who also owns Airfix. You may have some luck contacting Airfix: http://www.airfix.com/contact-us/

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HMS Victory and beyond ...

I just was creating a new thread about my odyssey on the Heller Vic on WIP:
viewtopic.php?f=59&t=99050

All the best, Daniel

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 8:41 am 
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I'm interested in building a model of Victory, preferably in plastic or if not possible resin. (I love seeing wooden models, but don't like to build them.)
I know there are kits in 1/100 and 1/180, and a resin kit in 1/700.
But is there also something close to 1/350?

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 10:55 am 
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There's this wargaming model in 1/300 resin/PE/white metal that can be detailed extremely well - as done by Kerry Jang: http://www.modelshipgallery.com/gallery ... index.html

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