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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 2:52 pm 
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http://www.edwebproject.org/scandinavia/vasa.html

http://www.galenfrysinger.com/vasa_ship ... ckholm.htm

The Airfix kit is an oldie but a goodie.

http://www.airfix.com/airfix-products/s ... sa-a09256/

http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg1 ... past-.html


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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 9:53 pm 
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Hello,

I am scratch building Vasa of 1628 and the director of research at Vasamuseet in Stockholm, Fred Hocker, thinks my model is the most accurate ever built. :smallsmile:

You can view it on my website:

http://clayton707.googlepages.com

Cheers!
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 2:12 pm 
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Hyho Clayton,,

always admired your great build!!!

Also would also like to draw attention to Hervé´s site where there are really great informations.
http://wasadream.com/

Here is the english verion translated by Clyton.
http://wasadream.com/Index/indexenglish.html

Here is the german verion that I had the honor to translate.
http://wasadream.com/Index/indexgerman.html

Enjoy, Daniel

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 4:00 pm 
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Hello Steve and others,

I started with the Airfix kit about one year ago, after a visit to the Vasa museum in Stockholm. I found that indeed the Airfix kit is quite good, however dated in that it showed the restoration status around 1970-1975. Since then many more parts have been found and added to the ship: I have spent quite some time in 'updating' the Airfix kt to the current situation.

And then, lo, Revell comes with a new kit! I have one for a kit revoew on my workbench too, so I can compare them well. First the scale: Revell's is 1:150, so slightly smaller than Airfix', both measure out well. Next: Revell have opened up the lower gundecks, although not as full decks but only a sort of galleries. Many more guns to paint, Airfix only has short barrels to stick out from some dark holes.

Thirdly: Revell have done their homework well, and the ship is up-to-date. Even the paint scheme is meticulously copied from the large 1:10 model in the museum, and whene everything is coded with the familiar Revell colour flags, I can tell you: no fun! Enought to drive anyone crazy. One picture in full colour print could have done better. Still, no fun to paint all those statues in lively colours. But that is not a problem from the kit though.

Fourth: Revell has given the standing rig as injection moulded ratlines etc. I think it will build into a decent model, but maybe the connoisseur wants to replace that with real rope rigging instead. Plus adding all the finer details of course.

If I would start today, I would chosse Revell instead of Airfix, but now as I have made all the updates, I could continue just as well.

Curiously, one error from the Airfix kit was exactly copied onto the Revell one: The nails in the hull, which suggest positions of the most important frames, suggest these frames were perpendicular to the lower deck: this was definitely not the case: frames were erected vertically over the keel, which itself had a slope of about 3 degrees down towards the rudder, so the frames were not really perpendicular to the keel. Strange that this error was made in exactly the same way by both Airfix and Revell, maybe attribuable to the same faulty drawing?

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Wish revell had done it in 1/100 scale, so results can stand next to my beloved heller 1/100 HMS victory.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2018 10:24 am 
Hello everybody,

First a very big shout out to Clayton. I went to his website to check his Wasa and other stuff...WOW is an understatement!
At the moment I have just started to do research on the Wasa, as I am about to start one myself in the near future. The things I aw on Clayton's website gave me alot of inspiration, but also demoralised me as I know I will never in a millions years be able to pull that off lol. Serious now, my goal is to make my model as accurate as I am able to get it. After some investigation I decided to start with the kit from Billing Boats, as it seems to have the most correct hull of all models available at the moment. Do the experst here agree with that is my main question. I will not do a full scratch build, as that is way out of my league, so basically I need a good base to start with.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2018 4:52 am 
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the kit from Billing Boats, as it seems to have the most correct hull of all models available at the moment

Sorry, I'm, not able to asses that, as I don't have the Billing Boats kit. But as basically the same info was available to anyone from the sixties onwards, I wouldn't think Billing would have it all wrong.

And the better news: I believe Billing doesn't provide you with a complete hull (right or wrong) but with the drawings of it, and the timbers to build it yourself! So ample room for improvement if you find an error somewhere.

So I would start with examining the Billing Boat drawings closely and comparing them in detail with better drawing sources, and make adjustments to it if needed, before you cut any wood.

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