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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 7:23 pm 
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HMS Victory site:

http://www.hms-victory.com/

HMS Trincomalee site:

http://www.hms-trincomalee.co.uk/

HMS Bounty site:

http://www.tallshipbounty.org/

Batavia site:

http://www.bataviawerf.nl/en/7provincien.html

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Brazilian Navy "Cisne Branco":

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There are some interesting line drawings of sailing ships online in the Historical American Buildings Survey:

http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/collections/habs_haer/


Falls of Clyde:

http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/ampage?collId=hhsheet&action=browse&fileName=hi/hi0000/hi0083/sheet/browse.db&recNum=0&itemLink=r?ammem/hh:@FIELD(DOCID+@BAND(@lit(HI0083)))&title2=Ship%20%26quot;Falls%20of%20Clyde%26quot;,%20Hawaii%20Maritime%20Center,Pier%207,%20Honolulu,%20Honolulu%20County,%20HI&displayType=1&maxCols=2

Balclutha:

http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/ampage?collId=hhsheet&action=browse&fileName=ca/ca1400/ca1493/sheet/browse.db&recNum=0&itemLink=D?hh:1:./temp/~ammem_mEoM::&linkText=-1&title2=Ship%20BALCLUTHA,%202905%20Hyde%20Street%20Pier,%20San%20Francisco,%20San%20Francisco%20County,%20CA&displayType=1&maxCols=2

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New to sailing ship models, and wonder how do the airfix kits such as the Vasa compare to the Heller offerings?

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krgf15 wrote:
New to sailing ship models, and wonder how do the airfix kits such as the Vasa compare to the Heller offerings?

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Depends on the individual kit.

Heller offerings range from really nice (Victory, Belle Poule etc) to outrageously poor; Heller had a really nasty habit of recycling hulls.

As for the big Airfix ships, Prince and Vasa are among the best, certainly at least as good as anything Heller has on offer. The decorations on the Vasa are very nice indeed. Royal Sovereign is usually considered to be not so good; however, the basic dimensions look reasonable, and the decorations are - within the limits of the technology of the time - quite respectable.

Of course, depending on what you want there are other options. Revell has a very respectable late 16th c. warship, which is variously sold as Golden Hind, English Man O'War or Spanish Man O'War. With maddening confusion, Revell also sold a four-masted Hollywood prop as English and Spanish Man O'War, but these are no true scale models.

As for something different, you might try the new Academy Cutty Sark, which is a very good kit.

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Awesome, I was kind of thinking about the Vasa, as I love the 17th Century ships. But im not ready for the Soliel Royal, and I cant seem to find the Sirene. I was kind of looking at the two 3rd rate 18th Century ships Heller has too, the Glorieux and Superbe, do you know if theyre any good?


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Glorieux and Superbe are generally thought to be among the best kits Heller has produced (even if they too share the same hull; but then they were more or less sisters). There are some issues (lack of deck camber, rather strange wood grain detail on the hull), but on the whole they provide a good basis for a nice model, even if built mostly OOB. In fact, they are more correct than the Soleil kit, which has a number of issues, at least one of them really substantial. Well worth getting, and (roughly) same scale as the Vasa, so they would make for a nice display (development of warships over 100 years).

I can't find much positive to say about the Sirene; that's one of Heller's earlier kits of a totally fictitious ship - and a totally unseaworthy and anachronistic one at that. Unless you're a Heller addict who wants to have one of each, I wouldn't waste too much effort on tracking it down.

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Im going with the Vasa. Im scared, but im gonna do it lol. Thanks for the advice!


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I've probably come through onto the wrong thread, however if this is right, rather than use the blown plastic sail, on a scale 1-72, what else could I use, basic cloth looks okay until you take a closer look and it don't look none to good, I would like a plain sail, and one that I can also roll up, look forward to your reply.


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For reference on scratchbuilding, see this book, with great drawings and history about the "Lawhill":

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I've probably come through onto the wrong thread, however if this is right, rather than use the blown plastic sail, on a scale 1-72, what else could I use, basic cloth looks okay until you take a closer look and it don't look none to good, I would like a plain sail, and one that I can also roll up, look forward to your reply.


Use either paper or silk.

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The Lawhill book is an excellent reference. :thumbs_up_1:

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has anyone seen any reviews on the big trumpeter mayflower? I never did get the Vasa, and im looking for a sail model to build just got my income tax!!


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I just use airmail paper. I print the seams on it with the computer and then mold the sail round an ostrich egg whilst wet. It dries in a wind-filled shape and is very effective. But there are miniatures. here is my LOCH TORRIDON at 32'=1" photographed from a low angle.
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Does anyone know of a good kit of a classic 74 Third Rate?

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Which scale?

Heller has a nice one in 1/150, and Skytrex had one in 1/700 if I remember correctly.

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