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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 11:43 am 
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Very nice! Thanks for the update!

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Nice work, Dino. Your hull plating and secondary casemates look great.

Poor Barham. One of the many doomed ships built at the John Brown Shipyard.

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Great work mate, this ones got me dribbling!!!

"Poor Barham. One of the many doomed ships built at the John Brown Shipyard."

Well considering the era, and the amount of ships built in Brown's, its not really surprising that as many were lost!!!


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largeallan wrote:
Well considering the era, and the amount of ships built in Brown's, its not really surprising that as many were lost!!!


True, but it has always struck me how many of their major ships met tragic ends. Three of the five British capital ships lost in the war, Barham, Repulse and Hood, were built at Brown's, as well as Canberra and Southhampton. On the civillian side there were Lusitania, Empress of Britain and even Queen Elizabeth. No refelection on them I'm sure, its just noteworthy. In fact, a pilgramage to Cydebank is one I hope to make someday, I believe the fitting-out basin and one of the big cranes are being preserved.

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from HMS Hood association site http://www.hmshood.com

http://www.hmshood.com/history/construct/construction.htm

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I believe only the big crane at the left is still there.

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A while back I posted this in another thread.

I think this is the spot on Google Earth, it's hard to tell tbh:-


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Yes, thats it. Laurence. The big Titan crane at the bottom is the same one in the photo of Barham at the top of page 15 of Raven and Roberts. The buildings behind the ship may be the same ones in the photo too. The other three cranes were later additions and are gone now-I think most Google Earth images are three to five years old. So many great ships were born here, too bad Google Earth doesn't have a "back in time" feature. I believe the Titan crane has some sort of landmark status and a college is being built on the site.

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I believe the grey area to the right is where the slipways would have been and of course you can still see the final fitting out berth :lol_3:


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Shelter deck and "B" barbette

I'm going to build all the main structures of the ship before to detail them. This, as said before, to avoid any damage handling it.

With the ususal tech I built the shelter deck, the main structure in balsa wood and all covered by plasticard.

First I draw the profile over the balsa sheet:

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..than I glue various layers of balsa in order to reach the desired heigh of the deck:

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... one more check with the plans:

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...and the finished deck :

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I'm going to build all the fore superstructure without details, I aim to build all the decks in a way that allow me to paint them separately. I'll add details later when I'll have all the shapes ready and working, my plan is to realize all the decks movable and fitted around the fore mast ... we will see the result :eyebrows:


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15" barrels

Just arrived from Burkhardt Masch Kleinserien, they are still hot :heh:

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I'm changing the master pattern of my towers, I was waiting for the barrels before to make the silicon mould, it was the right choice, I modified it removing the canvas covers, I'll add them on the resin casted towers.

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Looks great Dino,
Your first comment wasn't correct though: "my English is poor". Not at all, it's certainly up to a normal level here!

I like the build and certainly the choice for wooden decks. This clearly isn't your first build! A well thought over process with the transparent paper etc. Congrats with your planning work.
I also found out that details should remain for the last episode of a build, when all the major construction work has been done. I did them before I actually used milliput on the sides of my Excel and that messed up some of the details and vents I had already placed.

Regards and good luck with the guns, love the barrels
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Thank you Neptune, yes that's not my first model, but I'm "noob" in ship modeling ... I built a lot of tanks before :heh: Now I'm excited as a kid 'cause ship modeling is a new world to explore!

I love to scratchbuild ships because is a way to model that force you to understand any single part you are cutting ... and it's relaxing ... uhm almost always relaxing :eyebrows:

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Dino Carancini wrote:
Thank you Neptune, yes that's not my first model, but I'm "noob" in ship modeling ... I built a lot of tanks before :heh: Now I'm excited as a kid 'cause ship modeling is a new world to explore!

I love to scratchbuild ships because is a way to model that force you to understand any single part you are cutting ... and it's relaxing ... uhm almost always relaxing :eyebrows:

Dino

Hi Dino Yes I quite agree .To add I have always thought that with scratch building you connect in some way with the naval architect / designer and get a real "feel" for the ship a "buzz" if you will . The second emotion, once the ship is built is the great feeling of satisfaction in getting it to work in the element it was designed for. :nod_2:
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Conning tower deck

This is the deck that will support the conning tower with his main director hood and the two four barreled pom poms. The particularity of this deck is the two spheric structure that were the supports for the quad 0.50 Vickers. I built them with a sandwitch of plasticard and with a bit of putty and sanding I reached the shape.

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Barham conning tower is large and was never modified, as it was in Malaya and Valiant ae. This is the sequence of the building, the base is in balsa as usual and the upper part is made with layers of plasticard to simulate the windows. Same procedure for the main director hood base, three layers to make a sandwitch, in this stage the right tool is vital to get styrene cyrcles :big_grin:

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Next stage will be the director hood and the detailing of the bottom of this deck.

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:woo_hoo: looking great! :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:

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She's coming along really well Dino, I'm amazed at how quickly you can scratchbuild, it takes me for ever.

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...time to leave John Brown's docks, but before to leave I couldn't resist to the temptation ...I need a bit of fun ... just a test with this jewel from Gold Medal Models...

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The bridge & the blockaus are very nice

Great work



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Excellent work. I like the idea of the open WT door the next challenge will be to fit out part of the passageway that can be seen.
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