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PostPosted: Sat Apr 04, 2015 9:36 pm 
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Compared to the other companies in the original Water Line consortium, Hasegawa has fallen well behind the pace of new releases in 1:700 scale naval models. Thankfully, March 2015 brings two long-overdue releases of the IJN light cruisers Tenryu and Tatsuta.

At the time of their 1918-1919 construction, the Tenryu class of light cruisers comprised the most advanced warships of their type in the IJN. They were the first light cruisers to feature three sets of geared turbines, which gave them a then unmatched top speed of 33 knots. They were built to serve as flagships for destroyer squadrons, and were essentially an intermediate class between destroyers and cruisers. Soon superseded in both speed and armament, they were out of front-line service by 1938, but modernized in preparation for hostilities in the Pacific.

Hasegawa's original releases of Tenryu (1973) and Tatsuta (1980) are now relics of the early days of 1:700 scale modeling. Despite a seven year difference in release date, the two kits are from the same mold. Intriguingly, the original Tatsuta kit box art depicts the class's original canvas covered bridge, but both kits build with the circa-1940 enclosed bridge. These kits are notable for lack of superstructure (no doors or portholes) and weapons details, thick castings, and odd parts design (the third funnel mates to the deck via a hard-to-disguise circular casting, for example). Hasegawa sought to provide an update for these kits in 2005 with the release of two small dedicated PE sets, but they are incomplete in their corrections and ultimately awkward upgrades: http://www.hlj.com/product/HSG3S-27/Nav, http://www.hlj.com/product/HSG3S-26/Nav

Hasegawa's 2015 release is a stunning upgrade over the original kits described above. Six sprues and a large decal sheet comprise the kit, as well as a large sheet of instructions. Instructions provide options for the original 1940 upgrade, or enhanced AA armament circa 1942.

The hull is cast in two parts, with rigid bracing. A third part forms the lower, waterline hull. The hull parts include a finely-cast degaussing cable (likely added during the 1940 upgrades, and presenting a challenge for back-dating these kits). Deck construction is split between three parts, two at the bow, and one for the mid-ship - stern deck. Superstructures and funnels come with fine molded detail, and light and heavy armament and other deck/davit details appear on par with Fine Molds and other upgraded accessory kits. Mast assemblies are finally cast as well.

The decal sheet is worth further comment as it appears to break ground for a 1:700 WL kit. Decals for draft marking are included for the bow and stern, as well as the ship names for the ship's motor boat, cutter, and sampan. Quite impressive.

Nice to see Hasegawa back in the game with a long overdue update of this class. Here's links to the respective kits and instructions:

Tatsuta: http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/image/10311771z/70/1
Tenryu: http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/image/10311768z/70/1

Edit - kudos to Vladi for picking this up - see his post below: The Tatsuta kit does indeed come with linoleum planking stripped in a bow-stern orientation, as seen in comparing parts E6, E9 and E5 in the Tatsuta directions with the transverse orientation of parts D3, D1 and D2 with the Tenryu kit. The bridge details are subtly different, with the Tenryu kit depicting a rangefinder above the bridge roof, and the Tatsuta kit showing an observation platform. There is also a slight difference in the configuration of the rear mast between the two kits. The majority of differences are contained on sprues D and E of the respective kits. Thank you, Vlad!

The only spare parts will come from the decision not to build the ships with upgraded AA.


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Hi D-Boy, thanks for your review. It seems to me there is a difference between the two kits although it cannot be told for sure from the sprue photos at Hobby Search. According to instructions for both kits shown at Hobby Search the two ships differed by the direction how linoleum stripes have been applied to their decks - instructions for Tenryu show them laid as seen on most IJN ships, i.e. transversally, while the Tatsuta kit seems to have them laid lenghtways. I have no idea where this difference came from and I do not remember noticing that in Lacroix & Wells, but it seems to be mentioned in the kit description at Hobby Search (machine-translated from Japanese, slightly different for each ship) along with some other minor differences:
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- Kit to design based on the latest historical research, it was reborn as a high-detail precise models that make full use of the current mold technology. Tenryu and Tatsuta in a different bridge, rear mast, Naikatei etc. are divided to make a precise shape.
- Direction of linoleum holding of the upper deck is based on the latest historical research, has adopted a vertical stick representation.

I really look forward to getting the new Tenryu for my Battle of Savo Island collection ;)


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Thnks for the review mate, might have to get one, or both :big_grin:


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Vladi wrote:
Hi D-Boy, thanks for your review. It seems to me there is a difference between the two kits although it cannot be told for sure from the sprue photos at Hobby Search. According to instructions for both kits shown at Hobby Search the two ships differed by the direction how linoleum stripes have been applied to their decks - instructions for Tenryu show them laid as seen on most IJN ships, i.e. transversally, while the Tatsuta kit seems to have them laid lenghtways. I have no idea where this difference came from and I do not remember noticing that in Lacroix & Wells, but it seems to be mentioned in the kit description at Hobby Search (machine-translated from Japanese, slightly different for each ship) along with some other minor differences:
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- Kit to design based on the latest historical research, it was reborn as a high-detail precise models that make full use of the current mold technology. Tenryu and Tatsuta in a different bridge, rear mast, Naikatei etc. are divided to make a precise shape.
- Direction of linoleum holding of the upper deck is based on the latest historical research, has adopted a vertical stick representation.

I really look forward to getting the new Tenryu for my Battle of Savo Island collection ;)


There are some other minor details that the Hasegawa kits get correct as well, such as the kitchen chimneys on the first stack.

I am pretty impressed with this kit as well (Tenryu, and will get a Tatsuta just because - It was also deployed to that region for a time).

It would be nice to see Five Star, Flyhawk, Rainbow, or another high-end detail company do a PE set for this kit.

I am slowly getting faster with building PE, and learning what to do, and more importantly, what NOT to do with PE (I still have issues with glue, as I cannot get PVA glue to work for me at all, leaving me with little choice but to work with CA glues).

But The IJN CLs are something for which I have an especial obsession. They are the more beautiful Ugly-Duckling ships I can think of. And it is a pity that the IJN never really understood their role too well, nor were able to make them work.... well.... I suppose that it is a good thing they never did, considering the stakes of that war.

I got mine a few weeks ago, but the Savo Island ships are the last on my 1942 Build Schedule (Esperance and Second Guadalcanal being the first two, and the First Guadalcanal, then Savo and Tassafaronga).

And, one of the things I am working toward is to be able to get all of the ships (fighting) deployed to the South Pacific for both the IJN and Allies (including Dutch, English, and Australian), and then re-fight the war (using a set of WWII Naval rules, and the Plastic Ships as miniatures on a 24' x 24' table - I have made sticks that can be used to move them) from Just after Midway to sometime in 1943. Just to see what would happen if the situations had been pressed a bit differently.

But the Tatsuta and Tenryu are my 2nd and 3rd Favorite CLs of the IJN (After the Agano). It's the ugly-duckling thing they have going. Not your "classic" beauty.

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An in-box review of the Hasegawa 1/700 Light Cruiser Tatsuta "Super Detail" has been posted.
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Thanks for the review!
I just wish Hasegawa makes the PE available separately as I´ve already got the Tenryu kit (in fact I already started with it) and would very much want the PE set too...


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I think Hasegawa does a Tenryu with the super detail set as well.

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Hi MatthewB,
yes they do, but they do not sell the PE parts separately, so I decided to go for the FiveStar Tenryu set in the meantime. It costs roughly the same as the "Super Detail" set costs (just that the platics kit is not included indeed) and I already had the base kit. It arrived just yesterday and it looks good!
As I was unable to find how the FiveStar set looked like on the net I post here a photo of all parts for those interested. Sorry for the bad quality of photos, they´re meant just for a quick reference.
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Dumb question; I have an original 70's vintage Hase Tenryu - a favorite of mine for that minimalist ugly-duckling thing... Did anyone make one in plastic at 1/350th or so?
Thanks!


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No version in 1/350 as of yet.


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MatthewB wrote:
And, one of the things I am working toward is to be able to get all of the ships (fighting) deployed to the South Pacific for both the IJN and Allies (including Dutch, English, and Australian), and then re-fight the war (using a set of WWII Naval rules, and the Plastic Ships as miniatures on a 24' x 24' table - I have made sticks that can be used to move them) from Just after Midway to sometime in 1943. Just to see what would happen if the situations had been pressed a bit differently.


Hi Matthew, this sounds like a plan for a whole lifetime :) Or you´d have to be building like hell! I got my idea of building one ship of each class participating in the Battle of Savo Island about 3 years ago and I´m still in the middle of my #3 and #4 ships. But perhaps it´s just I´m too slow, and too perfectionistic... ;)
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