Calling all Soviet Kirov-class (Орлан) Project 1144 & Slava-class (Атлант) Project 1164 fans

Pieter · Post by **Pieter** » Sun Dec 11, 2005 2:44 pm

[quote="Neptune"]Basically for me, if a problem takes two pages of discussion to make it clear, then I think it's not that important.
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Hmmm, I think this looks like a clear case of immunity to Advanced Modelling Syndrome. Next time he's going to tell us he finishes his kist in under 6 months!

Neptune · Post by **Neptune** » Sun Dec 11, 2005 2:51 pm

Actually, it's an exception if I finish it in OVER 6 months... Although I'm getting late on my schedules and the latest models are indeed taking that long. But after QM2 and Velikiy are finished I indeed hope to get stuff finished at that rate again! And indeed I am satisfied without PE railings and stuff. The reason why I have only applied PE (with moderate success) once on the Sovremenny because it was included and also the reason why I don't use airbrush and in fact didn't even use tape before the Sovremenny.

350z · Post by **350z** » Mon Dec 12, 2005 8:14 am

I don't use airbrush either but taping saves your time. I realize that taping of 1/700 model is a hard work

Jefgte · Post by **Jefgte** » Mon Dec 12, 2005 8:51 am

So nice models!

Jef

maxim · Post by **maxim** » Wed Jan 18, 2006 8:11 am

Does somebody know, what are the colours of the Russian Kamov Ka-27 Helix on Moskva (Slava class), Kalinin/Admiral Nakhimov (Kirov class) and Besstrashny (Sovremenny class)?

In Trumpeter's instructions the Helix have a white/gray scheme, whereas most Helix on the photos I found have a uniform colour.

Which colours do you use?

Post by **Timmy C** » Wed Jan 18, 2006 7:46 pm

maxim wrote:Does somebody know, what are the colours of the Russian Kamov Ka-27 Helix on Moskva (Slava class), Kalinin/Admiral Nakhimov (Kirov class) and Besstrashny (Sovremenny class)?

In Trumpeter's instructions the Helix have a white/gray scheme, whereas most Helix on the photos I found have a uniform colour.

Which colours do you use?

I've seen pics of them with blue and white too. I guess it differs from time to time and ship to ship.

350z · Post by **350z** » Thu Jan 19, 2006 6:59 am

maxim wrote:Does somebody know, what are the colours of the Russian Kamov Ka-27 Helix on Moskva (Slava class), Kalinin/Admiral Nakhimov (Kirov class) and Besstrashny (Sovremenny class)?

In Trumpeter's instructions the Helix have a white/gray scheme, whereas most Helix on the photos I found have a uniform colour.

Which colours do you use?

Maxim, plese check following link. All photos are dated 2004.

But on photos I'd seen both schemas.
http://www.airforce.ru/photogallery/dun ... /index.htm

maxim · Post by **maxim** » Thu Jan 19, 2006 7:55 am

350z wrote: Maxim, plese check following link. All photos are dated 2004.

But on photos I'd seen both schemas.
http://www.airforce.ru/photogallery/dun ... /index.htm

Thanks.

Therefore both schemas was still in use in 2004.

The uniform grey schema has the same colour as the grey/white schema.

I have only to find photos of the helicopter on the ship, which I want to built

john chick · Post by **john chick** » Thu Jan 19, 2006 8:28 am

how many helicopter is carrered by kriov ships .i know they have room for 3 but i only ever see 1 even from the carrier. Also does any one have the number and type of planes that Admiral Kuznetsov had on her when she was with the fleet

350z · Post by **350z** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 6:28 pm

350z · Post by **350z** » Tue Jan 24, 2006 1:37 pm

As a matter of fact I built Neustrashimiy last spring and Slava was finished in September; hulls for Kresta I & II were painted together with Kara in July last year

Kerch was finished in November and Bravy started right before Christmas. Kirov and Kiev were started in 2004.

AyalaBotto · Post by **AyalaBotto** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 5:00 am

hi,

Building 1/700 Trumpeter Slava Cruiser, but I noticed the radar in the fwd mast is probably the update version in use today.
As I also have Kombrik Slave model, I Intend to build a model with the best parts of both models.

I saw many diferente colour deck schemes, but Trumpeter model, sohws a green and red brick collour scheme.
I have both references from WEM, but I wonder if the green colour should not be replaced by a dark grey colour in order to represent verions in use currently...

What scheme colour should I use: green/red brick or grey/red brick?

thanks in advance
Regards
Ayala

(((((could the WebMaster please move this post to the "Calling all Russian/Soviet warship fans!" area? thanks ))))) Edit - no, we can't merge two threads, so I'm taking the advice to make a Slava Thread -Tracy

Neptune · Post by **Neptune** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 9:15 am

Well Ayala, maybe we should just make a "Calling all Slava class fans" topic, as the Russian Navy topic is quite large and spread now.

It all depends on which time period you want to show her in and of course, which ship of the class you want to do. Currently Varyag, in the Pacific fleet has a very bright helicopter pad, much like some of the Baltic ships nowadays. The others, like Ustinov, still retain their brick red helicopter deck. The main deck, I think for all three of them, is a brown-grey type of colour. Haven't been able to really fix it in any way. I think there should be some colours close to it, but I haven't been to the modelling shop for a while.

AyalaBotto · Post by **AyalaBotto** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 10:47 am

Trumpeter model includes the following pennant numbers: 121, 011, 055 and 088 as well as the decals for each of this 4 ship names.

I want to build the ship by the box, with no modifications , so any of the above 4 ships is good.

regards
Ayala

AyalaBotto · Post by **AyalaBotto** » Mon Jun 12, 2006 5:36 am

Anonymous wrote:
Neptune wrote:Hmm, Andrey you seem to pump these babies out like a bakery does with bread!!!! Already a new one in such an advanced stage!
Ha! I'm very SLOW builder. I enjoy the process and cannot put more then 3 Hrs a week on it. My concept is simple. I'm doing 2-4 models at the same time. I paint all hulls and letting them dry well while finishing
detailing on last ship from previous batch. When I started details on Slava I painted 3 new hulls - Kara, Kresta II and Kresta I.

Neptune wrote:I'll be going for Admiral Ustinov, in her latest configuration.
Good! Marshal Ustinov is on photos that called Slava-Top-1 through 6. If I build Trumpeter I better go with newest unit in a class - Varyag that has Top Plate instead of Top Steer.

Sean Hert wrote: Are you using WEM colorcoats, or Humbrol, or what?
I'm using Gunze Sangyo acrylic paint. My local hobby store has it so I don't have a problem to buy it. I don't like Tamiya, never tried WEM. Humbrol enamel is nice but dries too long.
Gunze is something between ordinary actinic and enamel.
It shines and is smooth as enamel and dries faster then enamel but still not as fast as Tamiya or Testors.

so, do you think Humbrol27 or Humbrol67 are good options for the Slava grey decks?
The flight deck remains WEM green or HU grey?

Ayala

350z · Post by **350z** » Mon Jun 12, 2006 7:55 pm

I don't know about Humbrol, Ayala, since using Gunze.
If you find conversion tables I can say that
Hull is H334, Lower Deck is H68, upper Deck is H7, and green is H6.
This schema is good for Soviet ship. I think Russia paint hull into darker gray.

350z · Post by **350z** » Sat Jun 24, 2006 8:04 pm

Good idea to Start Slava only thread. I can share some photos.

Varyag
Варяг

350z · Post by **350z** » Sat Jun 24, 2006 8:06 pm

Moskva (Slava)
Москва (Слава)

350z · Post by **350z** » Sat Jun 24, 2006 8:07 pm

Marshal Ustinov
Маршал Устинов

350z · Post by **350z** » Sat Jun 24, 2006 8:20 pm

Ukraina
Україна

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