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Some small progress, small details, gluing of decks, deck ladders, etc., the bridge is not yet glued.

Improved aging at the waterline.

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Pascal

•Battleship Bretagne 3D: https://vu.fr/FvCY
•SS Delphine 3D: https://vu.fr/NeuO
•SS Nomadic 3D: https://vu.fr/tAyL
•USS Nokomis 3D: https://vu.fr/kntC
•USS Pamanset 3D: https://vu.fr/jXGQ

A batch of postures created this afternoon. I need to make another batch with figures with more stoutness.

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Pascal

•Battleship Bretagne 3D: https://vu.fr/FvCY
•SS Delphine 3D: https://vu.fr/NeuO
•SS Nomadic 3D: https://vu.fr/tAyL
•USS Nokomis 3D: https://vu.fr/kntC
•USS Pamanset 3D: https://vu.fr/jXGQ

Looking interesting. I suppose one can also change their height and body type ? Not everyone was 6' and slim, particular the older ratings may have accumulated some girth.

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Eberhard

Former chairman Arbeitskreis historischer Schiffbau e.V. (German Association for Shipbuilding History)

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Yes, of course we can do that, although humans were less big and fat or obese than now in percentage. But also less tall.

That's what I'll do for the next series.

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Pascal

•Battleship Bretagne 3D: https://vu.fr/FvCY
•SS Delphine 3D: https://vu.fr/NeuO
•SS Nomadic 3D: https://vu.fr/tAyL
•USS Nokomis 3D: https://vu.fr/kntC
•USS Pamanset 3D: https://vu.fr/jXGQ

Indeed, on-board rations kept them slim However, I was thinking of some pictures of older petty and warrant officers in the austro-hungarian navy that I have seen, who were decidedly more portly. I suppose it was similar in other navies before the times of obsession with 'physical fitness' and when an 'embonpoint' was a sign of socio-economic achievement and not a health detriment.

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Eberhard

Former chairman Arbeitskreis historischer Schiffbau e.V. (German Association for Shipbuilding History)

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I spent 2 days on the cables that hold the spars of the Bullivant starboard anti-torpedo net. I drew, printed, installed the front pulleys, and the supports of the net's sea station.

I had fun comparing the Bismarck and the Bretagne which are on the same scale. 20 years of evolution in design and shipbuilding techniques separate them.

viewtopic.php?f=59&t=314096

251 m for the Bismarck, displacement 41,700 tons: 166 m for the Bretagne, 23,500 tons.

Bretagne:



Lorraine:

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Pascal

•Battleship Bretagne 3D: https://vu.fr/FvCY
•SS Delphine 3D: https://vu.fr/NeuO
•SS Nomadic 3D: https://vu.fr/tAyL
•USS Nokomis 3D: https://vu.fr/kntC
•USS Pamanset 3D: https://vu.fr/jXGQ

Back to the drawing board.

I have started to draw the boats, thanks to those who provided me with plans.

Not too many period photos of these boats in general. But if you look around, you can find some.






















The 11mt steam launch to start with. It will be 55 mm long.

















One day to get to this point, not too bad.

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Pascal

•Battleship Bretagne 3D: https://vu.fr/FvCY
•SS Delphine 3D: https://vu.fr/NeuO
•SS Nomadic 3D: https://vu.fr/tAyL
•USS Nokomis 3D: https://vu.fr/kntC
•USS Pamanset 3D: https://vu.fr/jXGQ

Very interesting, as I am just working on a book on the German navy boats 1852 to 1918.

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Eberhard

Former chairman Arbeitskreis historischer Schiffbau e.V. (German Association for Shipbuilding History)

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very elegant-- you were quite well armed with photo information !

in your image of the two launches hanging the boat boom-
-the round bilge design is well reflected in the considerable angles of roll
in the seemingly not huge swell... !



I can only admire the elegance of the lines of the steam launch-- I have similar looking boats on my 1/350 Bouvet

along with some sailing gigs-- did Bretagne carry sailing Gigs? ( pardon old fuzzy photo)






here is a maybe useful image ( certainly well loaded !!! )







The steamers carried impressive awnings and sprayhoods

the heat from the boiler under teh awning must have been considerable



The whalers are also very attractive with the handsome sheerlines...

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Are you sure the last one is a whaler? My understanding was that whalers are double-enders and mainly used to land through surf, if needed. At least that's how we defined/used them in the German navy.

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Eberhard

Former chairman Arbeitskreis historischer Schiffbau e.V. (German Association for Shipbuilding History)

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The term "Whaleboat" has been overused in relation to the original pointed bow and stern boat.

In France, it still refers to a lifeboat. It has become a generic term.

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Pascal

•Battleship Bretagne 3D: https://vu.fr/FvCY
•SS Delphine 3D: https://vu.fr/NeuO
•SS Nomadic 3D: https://vu.fr/tAyL
•USS Nokomis 3D: https://vu.fr/kntC
•USS Pamanset 3D: https://vu.fr/jXGQ

I didn't make too much progress today, I took advantage of the great weather to get some fresh air.

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Pascal

•Battleship Bretagne 3D: https://vu.fr/FvCY
•SS Delphine 3D: https://vu.fr/NeuO
•SS Nomadic 3D: https://vu.fr/tAyL
•USS Nokomis 3D: https://vu.fr/kntC
•USS Pamanset 3D: https://vu.fr/jXGQ

Do these boats have a steel hulI?

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Eberhard

Former chairman Arbeitskreis historischer Schiffbau e.V. (German Association for Shipbuilding History)

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The figure program seems pretty amazing! I populated my APA with a hundred modified figures from a set of a Navy PT boat crew, crude by comparison!

Cheers: Tom

I don't know, but it's possible:

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Pascal

•Battleship Bretagne 3D: https://vu.fr/FvCY
•SS Delphine 3D: https://vu.fr/NeuO
•SS Nomadic 3D: https://vu.fr/tAyL
•USS Nokomis 3D: https://vu.fr/kntC
•USS Pamanset 3D: https://vu.fr/jXGQ

Yes, and relatively easy to use.

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Pascal

•Battleship Bretagne 3D: https://vu.fr/FvCY
•SS Delphine 3D: https://vu.fr/NeuO
•SS Nomadic 3D: https://vu.fr/tAyL
•USS Nokomis 3D: https://vu.fr/kntC
•USS Pamanset 3D: https://vu.fr/jXGQ

I drew the steam engine today and the rear benches. I've almost finished, no need to put much more detail. There are still the fenders to be placed on the planking, the hoops for the cover.

There will be two such launches on the battleship, I may cover one with a half-top probably.

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Pascal

•Battleship Bretagne 3D: https://vu.fr/FvCY
•SS Delphine 3D: https://vu.fr/NeuO
•SS Nomadic 3D: https://vu.fr/tAyL
•USS Nokomis 3D: https://vu.fr/kntC
•USS Pamanset 3D: https://vu.fr/jXGQ

I looks indeed, as if the the boats were build with vertical strakes of sheet metal ...

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Eberhard

Former chairman Arbeitskreis historischer Schiffbau e.V. (German Association for Shipbuilding History)

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Salut Pascal,
I admire your excellent work.
I would like to know in what thickness you print the hull shells of the dinghies /
boats and by what thickness the rafters protrude from the hull shell, thank you.
Best regards,
Heiko

Hello Heiko, I will look at.

Drawing of the canvas awning





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Pascal

•Battleship Bretagne 3D: https://vu.fr/FvCY
•SS Delphine 3D: https://vu.fr/NeuO
•SS Nomadic 3D: https://vu.fr/tAyL
•USS Nokomis 3D: https://vu.fr/kntC
•USS Pamanset 3D: https://vu.fr/jXGQ