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PostPosted: Sat May 01, 2021 2:44 am 
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I’ve made a little more progress on the superstructure. Most significantly, I ended up giving in and getting the Eduard PE set. It has some pieces that the Pontos kit just doesn’t provide. I’ve been trying to fashion deck prices from a diamond plate PE sheet, and the shapes needed are tough to cut in a clean fashion. The Eduard set has these pieces, making it a much easier fix.


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File comment: According to my references, this part of the superstructure needs to be moved forward.
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File comment: Here’s a larger photo of the superstructure.
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File comment: I was able to use the diamond plate sheet to detail the floor of these gun tubs.
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File comment: Here’s the Eduard deck plates added. The fit was pretty good and it sure looks better than when I tried to cut the pieces out myself.
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PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2021 2:47 am 
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I’ve been working on the funnel on and off. There’s a lot of detail that can be added. The anatomy of the ship and super illustration books are invaluable here. I decided to remove the pipes that are molded onto the funnel structure. They are actually separate, secured by fittings at various points along their length. I’ve started to reconstruct them with the appropriate PE pieces added behind. I added some other small modifications as detailed below.


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File comment: I used modified triangular perforated gussets to model the supports under the “skirt” of the funnel.
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File comment: I added supports her at the aft portion of the platform.
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File comment: Here you can see the enclosure behind the director platform. I used some strip styrene, putty, and PE doors
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File comment: More doors and the aft facing vent.
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File comment: Some of the PE parts for the railings go behind the pipes, so I installed these here. The white styrene strip going up is for the whistle. Right on the skirt I installed the bases of the pipes, which are larger than the pipes themselves. Anatomy of the Ship has a schematic drawing with the diameters of the pipes. In scale, they come out to about .8mm and 1mm. I used 1.2 mm styrene rod for the bases.
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File comment: Here’s one of the great illustrations from Anatomy of the Ship that I’m going off of.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 07, 2021 12:17 am 
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I’ve been working more on the funnel. After sanding the molded-on pipes, I attempted to recreate them with styrene rod , resin ends, and brass brackets. I’ve also added a few hatches and other small details.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 1:27 am 
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Some slow progress has been made this week. I’ve worked on the bridge structure. To make it accurate for 1945, some of the protuberances on the kit pieces had to be removed or revised. There’s a lot of sanding and filling and a little scratch building involved.


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File comment: I’m trying a new primer I haven’t used before. It’s the Alclad grey primer. It airbrushes on very nicely and has good coverage without disrupting detail. I’m very pleased.
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File comment: Work has begun on the bridge structure. There appears to be a fenestrated wooden deck with on this observation level.
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File comment: I am attempting to reproduce that effect with a fine brass mesh. Also, the wind deflectors are crudely done, so I am attempting to improve them.
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File comment: Here is the result with the mesh for the decking.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2021 1:40 am 
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I’ve been working on a couple things lately. I’ve put together the supports for the rangefinder of the main tower structure. I had to be a little creative with this, since the Pontos parts were made for the new tool, and on the old tool the support itself is molded onto the observation deck below. I also added some supports for the bulwark of the deck. I did the same for some other parts of the bridge superstructure. I also started tackling the rangefinders themselves. There is a lot of detail to be added to these parts.


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File comment: Here you can see the support beams on the column that holds up the main rangefinder and radar structure. I also added some triangular gussets to the bulwark on this level.
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File comment: Here’s a detail shot of some work on the main bridge structure.
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File comment: There are many small photoetched parts to add to detail the portholes, wind deflectors, and other details.
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File comment: The Pontos set provides a lot of details for the rangefinder and I’ve added a few more.
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File comment: One of the challenges I’ve come across working with the old tool kit is that the Pontos parts which are made for the new tool don’t always fit. This requires a little creativity. Here I’ve built some supports for the catwalk that hangs from the rangefinder. I’ll use the Eduard version which I’ll attach to these.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 27, 2021 3:17 am 
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Great work! :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:


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Hi DMC,
I like how you are using your research and adding lots of minute details.

You do exceptionally neat work; should be very noticeable when the model is finished.

Pardon my ignorance, but I don't know your real name and therefore can't find out if you have any completed models in the MW gallery. It would be really fun to see a finished one, as it would add to the anticipation.

Regardless, I will pop in here on occasion--it inspires me to put more effort into my projects :)

BTW, I LOVE those gusseted rails!

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 27, 2021 8:24 pm 
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Chuck,

Thanks for your post; you’re very generous. My name is Dan Chase. I have a few ships in the gallery. Speaking of completed ships, I really like your battleships in the gallery. They’re a pleasure to look at.

By the way, are you the same person who had an article about detailing ships in Fine Scale Modeler earlier this year?


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Hi Dan,

Yes, I am the author of two recent articles in Fine Scale, and one older one about my HMS Repulse. There's likely to be a third article published in the Fall, plus I have one more ready for submittal.

Thanks for the referral to your gallery. Very nice models, varied subjects and seascapes. I really enjoy the creativity in your subject choices and the artistry in your presentations.

This project is going to keep you busy for a long time but in the end you will be very pleased--and so will all of us viewers.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 28, 2021 8:21 am 
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Beautiful work.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2021 1:36 am 
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I’ve been working on the bridge tower lately. Using Anatomy of the ship and the Super Illustration books, I’ve found a couple things I felt I had to fix. I realize that no model is totally accurate, and that even the different sources disagree on some things, but these is a searchlight platform missing altogether. There’s also a side gallery that is molded solid that ought to be a place people could stand in. This is probably being too detail-oriented, but I went ahead and tried to correct them anyway.


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File comment: Here’s what the gallery between the two directors is supposed to look like.
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File comment: The kit molds this as a solid piece. I tried to hollow it out, but in the end I just removed the chunk altogether.
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File comment: Here’s the other thing. This searchlight platform is missing.
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File comment: I tried to recreate the platform using some strip styrene
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File comment: Anatomy of the Ship shows some triangular gussets supporting the platform
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File comment: Here is the port side platform and gallery finished.
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File comment: Hopefully with a little putty and primer, they’ll fit in OK.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 05, 2021 1:35 am 
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I’ve been plugging away at the bridge tower. The ladders and platforms have been added to the rear of t structure, and a few smaller details have been added. The rangefinders have been completed except for the radars. It’s slowly taking shape.


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File comment: There are right angle conduit pipes where some of the rigging aerials attach to that some out of the tower. I used some very fine round styrene to try to recreate these.
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File comment: I drilled some holes and glued them in place
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File comment: The aft rangefinder completed but not painted.
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File comment: The bottom part of the main rangefinder
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File comment: The top portion of the rangefinder
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File comment: The aft side of the tower, showing the ladders and platforms added.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 18, 2021 12:28 am 
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There’s a few small additions. I’m coming to the end of the bridge tower construction. At this point, I think it’s time to prime and paint it. I was able to finish off the range finder’s radar. There’s a lot of small details that go into this structure. I am leaving off the gun and searchlight directors and the searchlights for the moment to make painting easier. I’ll paint them separately and add them later.


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File comment: The radar has been added. It’s ready to prime and paint.
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File comment: My reference photos show these rounded platforms mounted with their “floors” at the railing level, instead of at the same level as the deck, as the instructions from Pontos say. I tried to recreate that.
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File comment: The aerials and anemometers have been added, as well as some filling and sanding after the first priming.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 18, 2021 7:53 am 
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She's coming along very nicely.


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I agree. Very nice work going on here.

Those platforms are a neat find.
Kind of odd though; seems like there should be a ladder or steps to get up onto them.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 18, 2021 2:36 pm 
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Dan K - Thanks for the encouragement.

Chuck - thank you as well. You’re right about the ladder to the platform - I found a drawing in the Super Illustration book that shows a ladder and I added one (see below). Also, I think I figured out why some models have the platforms lower. Looking through Super Illustration and Anatomy of the Ship books, I’ve found that they were lower in 1941, but were moved by 1945 to the higher position. Since I’m wanting to model the ship in its final configuration, the higher position is correct.

I need some advice from you guys. Should I finish the details on the superstructure (railings, etc) and paint it before putting the wooden deck on, or should I put the deck on now to avoid damaging details and mask it with tape when painting the superstructure? I’m open to suggestions.


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File comment: Here’s the ladder to the platform in the Super Illustration book.
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File comment: Here it is on the ship.
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File comment: This is the Anatomy of the Ship book’s illustration the the tower in 1941, showing the platforms in the lower position.
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File comment: And here’s Super Illustration’s 1941 drawing.
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Over the last couple weeks the forward segment of the deck was glued in place and the deck and superstructure were primed and painted. I decided to do this before adding all the superstructure detail because I planned to add a wooden deck, and I was afraid of knocking a lot of small details off. In retrospect I think this was the right call.

I used the Artwox wooden deck. Since I’m trying to model the ship in its final configuration, I chose the blackened deck. It is very uniform in color, so I think some weathering will be needed. A lot of minor trimming was required to get a good fit. I like the overall look, however. It’s looking more like a ship!


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File comment: Based on some advice I’ve read on this forum, I sprayed the adhesive side of the deck with a clear flat coat. I used a diluted white glue to attach it to the plastic deck. This allows test-fitting and adjusting. This technique has saved me a lot of headache.
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File comment: Here’s the forward segment of the ship after being primed and painted.
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File comment: And this is the same section with the wooden deck glued on. Personally, I think it’s worth the effort.
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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2023 12:08 am 
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After a long absence, I have resumed work on the Yamato. Life intervenes in my hobby time sometimes, as I’m sure everybody has experienced. I was look at where to pick up, and I’ll realized that the black deck I had just put on looked too perfect. I experimented with a few of the scrap pieces of the deck, and decided to try sanding some of the black ink off to give it a more uneven or weathered look. I’d be curious to know what people think of the result. Does it need more taken off? Should I leave it alone? Or is the effect not at all what I was going for?


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File comment: The original deck color
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File comment: With some sanding
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File comment: A closer view
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You're doing a really amazing work! :lol_3:
Addons plus scratch builder! Top :thumbs_up_1:

Yamato will my last warship I'll do in my plans because I consider it the most difficult, and you confirm it seeing your images!
Follow with interest!!


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I like what you've done with the deck. Looks better a bit scuffed up.

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