HMS Victory and Le Redoutable at Trafalgar (1/300)
Moderators: BB62vet, MartinJQuinn, JIM BAUMANN, Jon, Dan K
-
EJFoeth
- Posts: 2907
- Joined: Wed Jan 21, 2009 1:51 pm
Re: HMS Victory and Le Redoutable at Trafalgar (1/300)
Those are very cute and beautiful little figures 
-
SG1
- Posts: 400
- Joined: Mon Apr 17, 2017 2:43 am
- Contact:
Re: HMS Victory and Le Redoutable at Trafalgar (1/300)
Wow! The stripes on the sailors trousers verge on the incredible. Super! 
- Iceman 29
- Posts: 1945
- Joined: Tue Sep 29, 2020 4:35 pm
- Location: Bretagne, France
Re: HMS Victory and Le Redoutable at Trafalgar (1/300)
There are hours of work here... Many different colors compared to recent military sailors. 
It's superb!
It's superb!
Pascal
�Battleship Bretagne 3D: https://vu.fr/FvCY
�SS Delphine 3D: https://vu.fr/NeuO
�SS Nomadic 3D: https://vu.fr/tAyL
�USS Nokomis 3D: https://vu.fr/kntC
�USS Pamanset 3D: https://vu.fr/jXGQ
�Battleship Bretagne 3D: https://vu.fr/FvCY
�SS Delphine 3D: https://vu.fr/NeuO
�SS Nomadic 3D: https://vu.fr/tAyL
�USS Nokomis 3D: https://vu.fr/kntC
�USS Pamanset 3D: https://vu.fr/jXGQ
-
ModelMonkey
- Model Monkey

- Posts: 4096
- Joined: Sat Aug 20, 2005 9:27 pm
- Location: USA
- Contact:
Re: HMS Victory and Le Redoutable at Trafalgar (1/300)
Wow.
These amazing figures remind me of the saying "How many angels can dance on the head of a pin?"
These amazing figures remind me of the saying "How many angels can dance on the head of a pin?"
Have fun, Monkey around. TM
-Steve L.
Complete catalog: - https://www.model-monkey.com/
Follow Model Monkey™ on Facebook: - https://www.facebook.com/modelmonkeybookandhobby
-Steve L.
Complete catalog: - https://www.model-monkey.com/
Follow Model Monkey™ on Facebook: - https://www.facebook.com/modelmonkeybookandhobby
- pascalemod
- Posts: 2009
- Joined: Sat Jul 30, 2016 5:33 pm
- Location: Stockholm, Sweden
Re: HMS Victory and Le Redoutable at Trafalgar (1/300)
Wow, they looks amazing. I think the effect will be a lot more impressive than in 1/700 as in that scale detail really stands out.
What optimiser are you using? Something heavy duty dentists use (dental loupes?) or something a bit less complicated?
What optimiser are you using? Something heavy duty dentists use (dental loupes?) or something a bit less complicated?
- @Shipific on IG
my gallery
my gallery
-
marijn van gils
- Posts: 2686
- Joined: Tue Feb 06, 2007 10:24 am
- Location: Belgium
Re: HMS Victory and Le Redoutable at Trafalgar (1/300)
Many thanks everyone!
https://doneganoptical.com/product/optivisor/
I compared it with cheaper opivisors with plastic lenses, and the glass lense does make a big difference: it doesn't distort the image like the plastic ones do.
I used to do this kind of stuff without magnification, but finally age is catching up with me and my eyes...
Not too complicated or expensive: the standard Donegan optivisor, with glass lense. I'm using a n�5 (2,5 times maginification).pascalemod wrote:What optimiser are you using? Something heavy duty dentists use (dental loupes?) or something a bit less complicated?
https://doneganoptical.com/product/optivisor/
I compared it with cheaper opivisors with plastic lenses, and the glass lense does make a big difference: it doesn't distort the image like the plastic ones do.
I used to do this kind of stuff without magnification, but finally age is catching up with me and my eyes...
-
Triumph68
- Posts: 1125
- Joined: Wed May 09, 2018 3:19 am
Re: HMS Victory and Le Redoutable at Trafalgar (1/300)
I also admire your paintings on those figurines... and they even have a belt... GREAt job 
- Iceman 29
- Posts: 1945
- Joined: Tue Sep 29, 2020 4:35 pm
- Location: Bretagne, France
Re: HMS Victory and Le Redoutable at Trafalgar (1/300)
The view isn't everything, you don't need to have ��bar counter malaria�� on your hands either.
It�s a old french expression, ��paludisme de comptoir de bar ou palu de comptoir�� = alcohol-induced hand shaking...
It�s a old french expression, ��paludisme de comptoir de bar ou palu de comptoir�� = alcohol-induced hand shaking...
Pascal
�Battleship Bretagne 3D: https://vu.fr/FvCY
�SS Delphine 3D: https://vu.fr/NeuO
�SS Nomadic 3D: https://vu.fr/tAyL
�USS Nokomis 3D: https://vu.fr/kntC
�USS Pamanset 3D: https://vu.fr/jXGQ
�Battleship Bretagne 3D: https://vu.fr/FvCY
�SS Delphine 3D: https://vu.fr/NeuO
�SS Nomadic 3D: https://vu.fr/tAyL
�USS Nokomis 3D: https://vu.fr/kntC
�USS Pamanset 3D: https://vu.fr/jXGQ
-
marijn van gils
- Posts: 2686
- Joined: Tue Feb 06, 2007 10:24 am
- Location: Belgium
Re: HMS Victory and Le Redoutable at Trafalgar (1/300)
Many thanks Pascal and Triumph68!
Meanwhile, I finished the rest of the figures:




If cut-down toothpicks don�t provide enough of a scale reference, here is my trusty match:

I also started gluing guns and decks in place.
For the lower decks, I placed the ships in the seascape to get the �aim� of the guns right, especially near the stern of Victory:

On Victory, I installed two decks and with their guns.
The middle gun deck:

�and the upper gun deck:

I did not yet install the guns in the waist. I will add those later, because these will be more visible from above, so they require some rigging.
Redoutable has no middle gun deck, being a two decker, so only an upper gun deck was glued in place:

In some places, crew figures were installed behind the gun ports. Not too much (because they are only visible when directly behind the port); just enough to give some life. Mostly they are gun crews sponging or lading a gun or marines firing their musket:


This is what you can see from the outside:

Meanwhile, I finished the rest of the figures:




If cut-down toothpicks don�t provide enough of a scale reference, here is my trusty match:

I also started gluing guns and decks in place.
For the lower decks, I placed the ships in the seascape to get the �aim� of the guns right, especially near the stern of Victory:

On Victory, I installed two decks and with their guns.
The middle gun deck:

�and the upper gun deck:

I did not yet install the guns in the waist. I will add those later, because these will be more visible from above, so they require some rigging.
Redoutable has no middle gun deck, being a two decker, so only an upper gun deck was glued in place:

In some places, crew figures were installed behind the gun ports. Not too much (because they are only visible when directly behind the port); just enough to give some life. Mostly they are gun crews sponging or lading a gun or marines firing their musket:


This is what you can see from the outside:

- wefalck
- Posts: 2079
- Joined: Wed Sep 28, 2011 12:04 pm
- Location: Paris
- Contact:
Re: HMS Victory and Le Redoutable at Trafalgar (1/300)
One word: WOW!
Eberhard
Former chairman Arbeitskreis historischer Schiffbau e.V. (German Association for Shipbuilding History)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Former chairman Arbeitskreis historischer Schiffbau e.V. (German Association for Shipbuilding History)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

- Maarten Sch�nfeld
- Posts: 1835
- Joined: Fri Dec 12, 2008 12:44 pm
- Location: Herk-de-Stad, Belgium
Re: HMS Victory and Le Redoutable at Trafalgar (1/300)
Even to the pinstripes on the trousers of the guncrews... amazing!

The figures are all faceless... on purpose? Not even a hint of facial features, like a shadow of the brows or the nose? Given all the details on their clothing it can't be too small for you to paint. I guess you have a reason for this.
The figures are all faceless... on purpose? Not even a hint of facial features, like a shadow of the brows or the nose? Given all the details on their clothing it can't be too small for you to paint. I guess you have a reason for this.
"I've heard there's a wicked war a-blazing, and the taste of war I know so very well
Even now I see the foreign flag a-raising, their guns on fire as we sail into hell"
Roger Whittaker +9/13/2023
Even now I see the foreign flag a-raising, their guns on fire as we sail into hell"
Roger Whittaker +9/13/2023
-
Pieter
- Posts: 1602
- Joined: Sat Sep 17, 2005 9:19 am
Re: HMS Victory and Le Redoutable at Trafalgar (1/300)
Proper crew. Does not flinch at all at a one ton block of Red Phosphorous on the upper deck.
Really nice paint work Merijn.
[quote="marijn van gils"]Many thanks Pascal and Triumph68!
If cut-down toothpicks don�t provide enough of a scale reference, here is my trusty match:

Really nice paint work Merijn.
[quote="marijn van gils"]Many thanks Pascal and Triumph68!
If cut-down toothpicks don�t provide enough of a scale reference, here is my trusty match:

- Devin
- Posts: 2497
- Joined: Mon Jan 10, 2005 10:46 am
- Location: Hoboken, NJ
- Contact:
Re: HMS Victory and Le Redoutable at Trafalgar (1/300)
Astounding work, Marijn. You make me feel like a slacker with my usual three-color crew figures!
We like our history sanitized and theme-parked and self-congratulatory, not bloody and angry and unflattering. - Jonathan Yardley
-
marijn van gils
- Posts: 2686
- Joined: Tue Feb 06, 2007 10:24 am
- Location: Belgium
Re: HMS Victory and Le Redoutable at Trafalgar (1/300)
Many thanks everyone!

Yes, I tried shadows of the brows and nose indeed, but they just looked like dirty smudges and darkened the faces too much, even under my optivisor.Maarten Sch�nfeld wrote:The figures are all faceless... on purpose? Not even a hint of facial features, like a shadow of the brows or the nose? Given all the details on their clothing it can't be too small for you to paint. I guess you have a reason for this.
And you make me feel like a slacker with your output of finished models!Devin wrote:You make me feel like a slacker with my usual three-color crew figures!
-
maxim
- Posts: 3971
- Joined: Tue Jun 14, 2005 6:23 am
- Location: Bonn
Re: HMS Victory and Le Redoutable at Trafalgar (1/300)
Especially the first photo demonstrate dramatically both the scale and quality! 
- Devin
- Posts: 2497
- Joined: Mon Jan 10, 2005 10:46 am
- Location: Hoboken, NJ
- Contact:
Re: HMS Victory and Le Redoutable at Trafalgar (1/300)
Oh, this year is an anomaly. I didn't finish a single model last year, which is why this year I'm able to get the five and counting completions. Plus, I'm not putting anywhere near the effort in that you are.marijn van gils wrote:And you make me feel like a slacker with your output of finished models!![]()
![]()
We like our history sanitized and theme-parked and self-congratulatory, not bloody and angry and unflattering. - Jonathan Yardley
- sgtryan13
- Posts: 2649
- Joined: Thu Apr 03, 2008 10:48 pm
- Location: Connecticut, USA
Re: HMS Victory and Le Redoutable at Trafalgar (1/300)
Wow, beautiful all around, the damage to the hull looks great, but those figures! I thought I went the extra mile adding a black smudge to represent goggles on carrier deck helmets, but this is a whole other level! Great effort and results, bravo.
Enlisted men are stupid, but very cunning and deceitful and bear considerable watching." - Marine Corps Officers Manual, 1894
http://www.modelshipgallery.com/gallery ... index.html
http://www.modelshipgallery.com/gallery ... index.html
-
marijn van gils
- Posts: 2686
- Joined: Tue Feb 06, 2007 10:24 am
- Location: Belgium
Re: HMS Victory and Le Redoutable at Trafalgar (1/300)
Thank you maxim and sgtryan13!
But the point is of course: it is all about how one enjoys to model. If you don't enjoy putting the same amount of effort in, that doesn't make your modelling any less worthwhile.
Devin, just take a compliment when you can get it!Devin wrote:Oh, this year is an anomaly. I didn't finish a single model last year, which is why this year I'm able to get the five and counting completions. Plus, I'm not putting anywhere near the effort in that you are.
But the point is of course: it is all about how one enjoys to model. If you don't enjoy putting the same amount of effort in, that doesn't make your modelling any less worthwhile.
- Rui Matos
- Posts: 417
- Joined: Wed Nov 22, 2006 4:42 pm
- Location: Lisbon, Portugal
Re: HMS Victory and Le Redoutable at Trafalgar (1/300)
Pinstriped trousers & shirts??
But no mustaches or beards?

Just an idea, Marijn, if you want to have some facial "details" (apart from what you have tried).
EXCELLENT!
Cheers,
Rui
But no mustaches or beards?
Just an idea, Marijn, if you want to have some facial "details" (apart from what you have tried).
EXCELLENT!
Cheers,
Rui
Ship Modelers of the World UNITE
- wefalck
- Posts: 2079
- Joined: Wed Sep 28, 2011 12:04 pm
- Location: Paris
- Contact:
Re: HMS Victory and Le Redoutable at Trafalgar (1/300)
This is the dilemma we are all faced with: there are details one would not see at normal viewing distance, but when taking close-up photographs, one notices their absence ...
I found Canaletto's paintings very helpful in painting small figures. If you have a close look, they are just a few blobs of paint - but well placed. From a normal viewing distance his people look very animated. There is however, a small hitch, these are two-dimensional paintings, where viewing angle and lighting direction have been determined by the painter. On a model the viewing angle and the direction of light will change with the circumstances. Still Canaletto's almost minimalistic rendering of people gives ideas.
I found Canaletto's paintings very helpful in painting small figures. If you have a close look, they are just a few blobs of paint - but well placed. From a normal viewing distance his people look very animated. There is however, a small hitch, these are two-dimensional paintings, where viewing angle and lighting direction have been determined by the painter. On a model the viewing angle and the direction of light will change with the circumstances. Still Canaletto's almost minimalistic rendering of people gives ideas.
Eberhard
Former chairman Arbeitskreis historischer Schiffbau e.V. (German Association for Shipbuilding History)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Former chairman Arbeitskreis historischer Schiffbau e.V. (German Association for Shipbuilding History)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

