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I'm working on the Resin Shipyards Kootenay. I can't see any obvious access to the bridge itself from the interior of the ship--no stair openings to the bridge, for example. Was there a door in the pedestal for the Type 271 radar, or am I missing something obvious? Any enlightenment would be welcome!

The 1/200th card model of Waskesiu by Neptunia shows a door on the starboard side of the radar pedestal.

http://neptunia-hobbies.com/gallery.html

Does anyone know where the mine rails would be located on an I class destroyer. I’m doing the Icarus in 1940 during the Narvik campaign.



Bob Pink

I'm converting the Atlantic G Class HMS Griffin (1/350) to HMCS Ottawa (ii).I have chosen the colour scheme in the attached picture as it is quite different from any other RCN ship I have done. However I'm not sure what the colours are as described below. None of my reference material or the Internet has the answer although it is a very well known and published photo.

1) lightest colour, (the base colour) - I think that is off white but it could be light grey, e.g. 507C (all or some of the panels).

2) medium colour panels - I have no idea what this colour is, perhaps a grey of some sort but not, I think, dark grey, e.g. 507A. It could be the greenish/blue colours often used on escorts, such as B55, B30 or some of the lighter MS colours, MS3.

3) There is some outlining the panel under the bridge area and I safely assume that to be black.

I few years ago, the RCN repainted a couple ships in a similar pattern but they used the current RCN grey for the light colour, and a very generic blue that does not look like any WWII blue/grey colour to me, so that may not be a good guide.

Any comments would be welcome
Thank you
George

There is a drawing of HMCS Chaudiere wearing the same pattern of camouflage in Alan Raven Camouflage Vol Three: Royal Navy 1943-4 (New York: WR Press, 2001). Raven lists the colours as B15, B30 and B55. (Note that, in at least one - but not all - photo of her in this scheme, Chaudiere has a lighter panel in the outlined area below the bridge.)

FWIW, the RCN historical branch agrees with B15, B30 and B55 for the original colours, citing Naval Camouflage 1914-1945: A Complete Visual Reference by David Williams. This assessment was for setting the baseline for the Regina and Moncton commemorative paintschemes, though as you noted the actual colours applied varied significantly from the historical.

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De quoi s'agit-il?

Thank you TJStoneman & Timmy!

I have a plan, I have Colour Coats B30 and B55 and have B20 which based on James Duff (thank you James)- Royal Navy Colours of
World War Two B & G Series Camouflage means I that I can modify B20 to B15 to get the darker blue of B15.

I did HMCS Chaudiere (also Atlantic/WEN) a number of years ago but I used the simpler 1945 scheme, just two shades of grey on the hull however the modifications were much more than what I need to do for Ottawa.

Thank you again
George

This design is more or less similar (though I don't think identical) to CB3098 1943 edition Plate 105. It also lists B15, B30 and B55.

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James Duff
Sovereign Hobbies Ltd
http://www.sovereignhobbies.co.uk

Current build:
HMS Imperial D09 1/350
http://www.shipmodels.info/mws_forum/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=167151

Thank you very much James
It looks like it is all up to me to do it correctly now!
I will also take a careful look at your HMS Imperial to see if I can learn anything there.

George

Fiddling around with some 700th RN destroyers while I wait for upgrade parts to arrive for my Oklahoma. One of those models is the Tamiya Echo, which prompts a question: was the AA platform that replaced the aft torpedo tubes a rectangle? Looks that way, just wanted to know that the experts thought.

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Martin

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Yes

Another Echo/E class question. Look at photos, it appears there are depth charge throwers, and reloads, on the E class ships, but they aren't included in the Tamiya, kit, even though they are on the box art.

Instead, Tamiya seems to have represented them to be what look like hatches.

I can't seem to find any good photos or plans of this area. Can someone point me in the direction of references that show the layout? (I have the same question for the J/K/N class destroyers)

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Martin

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Yes, on Echo there was a depth charge thrower there, one each side plus reloads.

I don't have any really clear photos of Echo but it looks like it was the same arrangement as on the F Class with the thrower forward of the reloads:

As always, thank you for the info! Much appreciated.

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Martin

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