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PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2025 10:19 am 
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thegreenmachine,

Re: Your post of 5 Feb.

Asmussen and Leon's (A and L) book on German Naval Camouflage in World War 2 (Volume 1) is probably the best Reference available that I know of though there may be others that the BISMARCK/TIRPIZ fans are aware of.

A and L contains an illustration of the ship around the time that you are interested in. In it the main mast is painted black from the bottom of what I understand was the helm indicator "box," up to the truck. However, the well-known photograph taken from the starboard quarter; which is also in the book, could lead one to believe that the "black" extended further down. It could be soot though or the appearance of the mast against the light.

It's remarkable just how much that ship's appearance changed over the short period of her life!

I hope that this helps.

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rvuorenr wrote:
I wonder why the searhclight dome appears to be very light colour compared to the rest of the ship in this one the last pictures of Bismarck. In all other pictures it doesn't strand out like this.

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Looks like the searchlight dome was still painted white from the baltic scheme. It looks too bright to be a light reflection. Maybe the crew was not able to paint the area just using ladders.


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Thegreenmachine wrote:
rvuorenr wrote:
I wonder why the searhclight dome appears to be very light colour compared to the rest of the ship in this one the last pictures of Bismarck. In all other pictures it doesn't strand out like this.

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Looks like the searchlight dome was still painted white from the baltic scheme. It looks too bright to be a light reflection. Maybe the crew was not able to paint the area just using ladders.


Very plausible, here's another pic to corroroborate. Wonder how come this hasn't been discussed before, or maybe it's just me with poorly scanning the references.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2025 2:58 pm 
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Building the Revell model in 1/350 and I wonder if these ladders in funnel under the searchlight dome are correct? They don't show up in the two pictures attached, but maybe they were there at some point of time?
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There is a ladder visible in the first picture between the gun barrels and crane that might be it, although, it might be a little farther back. The second pic has the boats in the way.

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Admhawk wrote:
There is a ladder visible in the first picture between the gun barrels and crane that might be it, although, it might be a little farther back. The second pic has the boats in the way.


I think the ladder you refer to, is on the side/top of the hangar, it's also visible in the second picture.


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Confirm, the ladder exists from the beginning. Maybe in the pictures it's few visible.


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rvuorenr wrote:
Very plausible, here's another pic to corroroborate. Wonder how come this hasn't been discussed before, or maybe it's just me with poorly scanning the references.


Yes not at all discussed. Much like that dark grey strip below anchor on that side as they couldnt repaint it well when in port, so the bow has a hitler moustache if you like. At least on that side, not sure if same on the other...

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Noticed what appear to be rectangular blocks on the upper hull, above the armour belt and almost adjacent to B and C main battery guns. I can't find any information as to what these are? Can anybody tell me please?

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Bob the Stug wrote:
Noticed what appear to be rectangular blocks on the upper hull, above the armour belt and almost adjacent to B and C main battery guns. I can't find any information as to what these are? Can anybody tell me please?

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There are rectangular Scuttles (or hatches) with hinges along the top edge that are sometimes opened, most likely for ventilation.
Deck plans show a room at each location titled Heizblübernahmeraum, which translates to Heating transfer room. Possibly heat exchangers for air conditioning?

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Admhawk wrote:
Bob the Stug wrote:
Noticed what appear to be rectangular blocks on the upper hull, above the armour belt and almost adjacent to B and C main battery guns. I can't find any information as to what these are? Can anybody tell me please?

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There are rectangular Scuttles (or hatches) with hinges along the top edge that are sometimes opened, most likely for ventilation.
Deck plans show a room at each location titled Heizblübernahmeraum, which translates to Heating transfer room. Possibly heat exchangers for air conditioning?


It should probably read Heizölübernahmeraum ... fuel tranfer room.

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It should probably read Heizölübernahmeraum ... fuel tranfer room.



I think you're correct.

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Many thanks both, appreciated

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